WEBVTT NOTE This file was generated by Descript 00:00:05.460 --> 00:00:07.280 Music: Welcome welcome. 00:00:11.310 --> 00:00:12.240 Neil Pinder: This is the fashion show. 00:00:16.170 --> 00:00:17.940 Music: Get ready for the catalog feeling 00:00:19.170 --> 00:00:19.500 Stephen Drew: well. 00:00:20.370 --> 00:00:20.460 Are 00:00:20.460 --> 00:00:21.900 Music: you aware in September with product? 00:00:24.360 --> 00:00:24.930 Neil Pinder: Absolutely 00:00:26.850 --> 00:00:27.300 Stephen Drew: me too. 00:00:27.810 --> 00:00:28.890 Gucci, Gucci Bracks. 00:00:28.890 --> 00:00:29.430 T-shirt on, 00:00:35.700 --> 00:00:36.450 Music: um, 00:00:36.810 --> 00:00:38.595 Stephen Drew: 5, 3, 00:00:38.595 --> 00:00:39.487 Neil Pinder: 2, 00:00:39.487 --> 00:00:40.379 Music: 1. 00:00:44.010 --> 00:00:46.770 Oh, hello everyone. 00:00:47.100 --> 00:00:47.880 Welcome 00:00:48.030 --> 00:00:53.640 Stephen Drew: to the kickoff of the Architecture Social show we have returned. 00:00:53.820 --> 00:01:00.120 So let's just imagine we have an amazing start to the season here. 00:01:00.420 --> 00:01:05.790 We have the fantastic new pen and he's going to talk about what glam. 00:01:06.960 --> 00:01:09.030 It is and how it's going to go global. 00:01:09.300 --> 00:01:12.839 But before that Nealon, before you introduced that we have got the 00:01:12.839 --> 00:01:18.419 fantastic video, which you have sent to us so well, should we play the video? 00:01:18.869 --> 00:01:19.320 Absolutely. 00:01:19.320 --> 00:01:20.550 I'm excited to see what it is. 00:01:20.699 --> 00:01:21.270 Okay. 00:01:21.300 --> 00:01:25.350 Well, everyone let's enjoy this video and then we'll all have a chat. 00:01:25.649 --> 00:01:26.280 Let's get it going. 00:01:38.090 --> 00:01:38.840 Music: my name is Neil 00:01:39.500 --> 00:01:42.289 . Neil Pinder: I'm a product design and architecture teacher at 00:01:42.410 --> 00:01:43.970 bravely schools, south London. 00:01:44.030 --> 00:01:46.070 And I'm passionate about half attention. 00:01:52.195 --> 00:01:52.945 I'm going to use my 00:01:52.945 --> 00:01:53.815 Music: own dice. 00:02:08.065 --> 00:02:10.225 This is my, this is my son. 00:02:11.340 --> 00:02:20.640 That's where I live and what I like and what I do is what I love about you. 00:03:04.755 --> 00:03:05.024 There's a 00:03:05.024 --> 00:03:07.695 Neil Pinder: risk that diversity becomes a box ticking exercise. 00:03:07.935 --> 00:03:10.334 It's about inclusiveness for its own 00:03:10.334 --> 00:03:22.125 Music: sake, my son, and what I like and what I do is what I love. 00:03:23.054 --> 00:03:23.834 How about you? 00:03:57.170 --> 00:04:00.829 Neil Pinder: We're seeing this terrified, collapsed at the moment in creative 00:04:00.829 --> 00:04:06.200 education, particularly in state secondary school, we've seen for example, at 57. 00:04:07.184 --> 00:04:09.524 And the number of sixteen-year-olds design 00:04:09.524 --> 00:04:09.614 and 00:04:09.614 --> 00:04:10.184 Stephen Drew: technology 00:04:10.214 --> 00:04:13.994 Neil Pinder: GCSE, the society will be diminished if we're only recruiting 00:04:13.994 --> 00:04:17.654 people from the top tier, from the elite of our education system, 00:04:17.954 --> 00:04:19.005 Music: into the creative industry. 00:04:19.544 --> 00:04:19.724 Yeah. 00:04:23.175 --> 00:04:26.445 Neil Pinder: What we need to do is set some new accountability, man. 00:04:27.224 --> 00:04:29.835 That includes a broader range of success criteria. 00:04:29.835 --> 00:04:34.125 So being successful in drama or music or art would not be seen 00:04:34.125 --> 00:04:37.724 as a lesser achievement of being successful in history or French or. 00:05:18.390 --> 00:05:19.560 Music: my son. 00:05:25.670 --> 00:05:28.440 And what I do is what I love. 00:05:29.250 --> 00:05:30.030 How about you? 00:05:40.365 --> 00:05:40.844 I think it's 00:05:40.844 --> 00:05:44.955 Neil Pinder: quite important for people like me who are working as architects, 00:05:44.985 --> 00:05:50.235 as planners in positions of influence to be more proactive in reaching out 00:05:50.235 --> 00:05:53.675 to people who don't think that they can study architecture, baby study. 00:05:54.465 --> 00:05:57.275 That's really important that we are role models so that there aren't 00:05:57.275 --> 00:05:59.085 more people like us during this 00:05:59.085 --> 00:05:59.505 Music: profession. 00:05:59.685 --> 00:06:02.445 Neil Pinder: What we want to do is work around the country 00:06:02.625 --> 00:06:04.155 to draw out that creativity. 00:06:05.325 --> 00:06:06.375 So many communities. 00:06:55.760 --> 00:06:56.179 Stephen Drew: Oh. 00:06:56.479 --> 00:06:58.669 Oh, oh amazing. 00:06:58.729 --> 00:07:01.130 Oh, oh, I'm taking the limelight here. 00:07:02.510 --> 00:07:03.739 I'm feeling inspired. 00:07:06.530 --> 00:07:10.429 No, we can't really top that super, super high energy nail. 00:07:10.429 --> 00:07:11.510 I loved that. 00:07:11.659 --> 00:07:13.099 That was amazing. 00:07:13.130 --> 00:07:16.070 So you are the brains behind this. 00:07:16.070 --> 00:07:16.729 Fantastic. 00:07:16.729 --> 00:07:18.770 Graham goes go well, but this is for everyone. 00:07:18.770 --> 00:07:21.109 That's what I loved in the video is seeing everyone getting involved. 00:07:21.755 --> 00:07:24.575 Tell us a little bit about yourself, but more importantly, 00:07:24.965 --> 00:07:26.645 what inspired you to get this? 00:07:26.945 --> 00:07:28.535 Get ground goes global. 00:07:28.565 --> 00:07:28.835 Go. 00:07:30.755 --> 00:07:34.805 Neil Pinder: Uh, they say they, um, I started off, um, uh, working with young 00:07:34.805 --> 00:07:39.575 people in schools, teaching, and then I'll go and seized into architecture. 00:07:39.605 --> 00:07:43.775 I went to art school to begin with, so I wanted to be a sculpture to begin with. 00:07:44.195 --> 00:07:45.665 And then it just progressed. 00:07:45.665 --> 00:07:47.585 I was working in youth center. 00:07:48.355 --> 00:07:51.325 And then I'll call it work and in school, up in the DJ. 00:07:51.565 --> 00:07:57.535 And that's why I said at the end of that, uh, Daniel King, uh, be a DJ because when 00:07:57.535 --> 00:08:02.245 you become a DJ, you can talk to anyone, anytime, any place, it doesn't matter. 00:08:02.245 --> 00:08:05.485 You could break down so many barriers and the barriers are 00:08:05.485 --> 00:08:09.355 broken down by the, by the music, that connected music that you play. 00:08:09.865 --> 00:08:12.235 So I love architecture. 00:08:12.235 --> 00:08:14.005 I've always loved architecture, but when I. 00:08:15.159 --> 00:08:17.200 Nobody ever told me about architecture. 00:08:17.409 --> 00:08:21.940 I had an inspirational art teacher who basically said, you know, 00:08:22.179 --> 00:08:23.620 why don't you go to art school? 00:08:23.799 --> 00:08:30.159 And so that opened up a whole new avenue to me, my friends and people lightening 00:08:30.429 --> 00:08:34.709 when I went to art school because, uh, as I say to people that I was in my Yale 00:08:34.709 --> 00:08:36.490 was the only black guy in art school. 00:08:36.939 --> 00:08:42.789 And so from then on, uh, I just started being even more creative DJ and running. 00:08:43.630 --> 00:08:44.410 At et cetera. 00:08:44.650 --> 00:08:49.540 And then it fast forward, I got introduced to London open house or London open city. 00:08:49.990 --> 00:08:55.329 And that was the beginning where I was working with young people, architects, 00:08:55.510 --> 00:09:00.069 and helping them to be inspired them to get into architecture from non 00:09:00.069 --> 00:09:02.170 traditional and traditional backgrounds. 00:09:02.530 --> 00:09:06.400 So that is how that, that, that sort of situation grew. 00:09:06.790 --> 00:09:07.870 And from there. 00:09:08.895 --> 00:09:15.705 Uh, so sort of snowballed until I had 1, 2, 3 people who I was teaching, who went 00:09:15.705 --> 00:09:17.895 into architecture, became architects. 00:09:18.345 --> 00:09:21.225 Some become, some are still now, even today. 00:09:21.225 --> 00:09:25.245 Some of those are in that pot, one pot twos, some of fully fledged architects. 00:09:25.515 --> 00:09:30.195 So that's how the family of home growing plus, uh, originally. 00:09:31.425 --> 00:09:32.175 Stephen Drew: I love that. 00:09:32.235 --> 00:09:33.105 Amazing. 00:09:33.225 --> 00:09:33.975 Can you imagine that? 00:09:33.975 --> 00:09:38.265 Well, so me and you, uh, cause you basically teach architecture as 00:09:38.265 --> 00:09:40.605 well in college and you're true. 00:09:40.725 --> 00:09:43.335 I never saw that before, when I was in college. 00:09:43.335 --> 00:09:45.645 It wasn't something that was even on the curriculum. 00:09:45.645 --> 00:09:48.405 And I think that's amazing because I remember at the time. 00:09:49.095 --> 00:09:49.635 And you laugh. 00:09:49.655 --> 00:09:54.735 I had a career advisor and this was old school one time. 00:09:54.825 --> 00:09:59.235 And I studied at the time geography and I had, um, design technology 00:09:59.385 --> 00:10:04.125 and I had graphic design and, uh, something else, it computers. 00:10:04.335 --> 00:10:08.025 And so I went to the career advisors and that Simon, who is a nice guy, but 00:10:08.025 --> 00:10:12.015 he was like, yeah, you need English and you need master become Architecture. 00:10:12.135 --> 00:10:13.125 Don't think you can do it. 00:10:14.100 --> 00:10:15.360 I'm going to show you. 00:10:15.360 --> 00:10:17.310 And then in the end, I was like, I did it. 00:10:17.640 --> 00:10:19.770 And you know, we can all do it. 00:10:19.770 --> 00:10:20.370 Everyone. 00:10:20.550 --> 00:10:22.770 Architecture is open to everyone. 00:10:22.980 --> 00:10:26.370 Anyone in any background can study architecture and it is amazing. 00:10:26.370 --> 00:10:26.670 Isn't it? 00:10:26.670 --> 00:10:30.930 The skills that you learn and the stuff that you can do is amazing. 00:10:30.930 --> 00:10:34.590 So I think it's super good that you're inspiring people at this level. 00:10:35.570 --> 00:10:37.340 Partly, I would respect to that. 00:10:37.430 --> 00:10:39.920 I want to test out my sound new sound board as well. 00:10:40.070 --> 00:10:42.080 So I've got like a virtual audience noise here. 00:10:42.410 --> 00:10:42.620 So 00:10:49.040 --> 00:10:52.460 it's a bit too excited that isn't there, but it's definitely a good thing. 00:10:52.460 --> 00:10:54.530 So we'll get, we'll get, we'll get a few more sounds. 00:10:55.165 --> 00:10:57.505 But, well, when you were, when you were in college, were you 00:10:57.505 --> 00:10:58.735 offered anything Architecture? 00:10:58.855 --> 00:10:59.005 No. 00:10:59.245 --> 00:10:59.515 No. 00:10:59.755 --> 00:11:03.835 Neil Pinder: I was thinking, cause before this, uh, before we came on life, I was 00:11:03.835 --> 00:11:10.525 having a think and I was going throughout my entire education and not once stared. 00:11:10.645 --> 00:11:15.025 Um, you know, did I see it ever a possibility of architecture, for example? 00:11:15.325 --> 00:11:16.405 I mean, I'm, I'll be honest. 00:11:16.405 --> 00:11:18.685 I wasn't particularly artsy anyways, so it probably wouldn't have come up. 00:11:19.270 --> 00:11:19.660 To resolve. 00:11:19.660 --> 00:11:23.079 And my brother who is a lot more artsy, a lot more design focused, 00:11:23.319 --> 00:11:27.609 again, nothing we weren't encouraged to go into any particular direction 00:11:27.640 --> 00:11:29.020 with guys to Architecture. 00:11:29.020 --> 00:11:31.270 It was something that just was never talked about. 00:11:31.359 --> 00:11:36.250 And, um, consequently, I don't think, I don't know anyone from, you know, 00:11:36.250 --> 00:11:40.239 my background that are architects at the moment, you know, and I think it's 00:11:40.239 --> 00:11:43.000 all about sort about the environment that you surround yourself and 00:11:43.000 --> 00:11:44.199 it's about who your teachers are. 00:11:45.045 --> 00:11:46.724 You know, where do they push you in? 00:11:46.755 --> 00:11:49.785 And I think, you know, some, you know, some educations colleges, 00:11:49.785 --> 00:11:54.495 schools, they just lack, um, someone, a representative of that industry 00:11:54.495 --> 00:11:54.854 Stephen Drew: there. 00:11:55.035 --> 00:11:55.185 Yeah. 00:11:55.245 --> 00:11:55.545 Yeah. 00:11:55.724 --> 00:11:58.214 Well, that's why you're here, then they listen. 00:11:58.214 --> 00:11:58.814 That's how I see. 00:11:58.875 --> 00:11:59.175 Yeah. 00:11:59.175 --> 00:11:59.594 Neil Pinder: Yeah. 00:11:59.775 --> 00:12:06.405 I mean, you see, the thing is it's even more crucial as just an unsaid, um, that 00:12:06.464 --> 00:12:11.925 re inspired young people who live in inner cities to design and be creative, 00:12:12.165 --> 00:12:13.814 uh, how they want their innocence. 00:12:14.645 --> 00:12:21.575 And as opposed to been imposed upon people who, who have never had the diverse 00:12:21.575 --> 00:12:26.314 backgrounds of what we've got are not live in the inner city and who has not as 00:12:26.314 --> 00:12:32.885 culturally, uh, aware of what, uh, each individual cultures bring to the table. 00:12:33.155 --> 00:12:39.200 So subsequently we, uh, And the city people, we're a melting pot of everybody 00:12:39.260 --> 00:12:41.630 and everything from around the world. 00:12:41.930 --> 00:12:48.230 And we could bring all of that fantastic heritage, uh, to the table 00:12:48.410 --> 00:12:50.540 when they start creating and designing. 00:12:50.750 --> 00:12:55.100 That's why over the last year, I think it's, it's been, uh, the pandemic 00:12:55.100 --> 00:12:57.740 has been as opened up so many doors. 00:12:58.265 --> 00:13:03.245 So many people played a digitalization of, of the media and the 00:13:03.245 --> 00:13:05.615 digitalization of communication. 00:13:07.170 --> 00:13:07.980 Uh, look down. 00:13:07.980 --> 00:13:11.939 I would most probably never spoken to use YouTube guy definitely knows. 00:13:12.449 --> 00:13:16.589 You know, so this is what is bro, and we've got real life. 00:13:16.620 --> 00:13:21.329 We got to celebrate, and this is what I'm about celebrating as diverse, 00:13:21.750 --> 00:13:24.599 uh, uh, culture, rich culture. 00:13:24.870 --> 00:13:25.770 And if. 00:13:26.975 --> 00:13:33.965 Some, some guys who live in, in a, uh, some sort of social housing or, or come 00:13:33.965 --> 00:13:39.125 from another country to be involved and bring the richness to the table. 00:13:39.275 --> 00:13:41.975 Then I think that could only in Hong society. 00:13:42.275 --> 00:13:48.845 And I think people shouldn't be scared of full integration, entered full diversity. 00:13:49.025 --> 00:13:53.920 And that's one of the things, unfortunately, Well, government of 00:13:53.920 --> 00:13:58.480 today, uh, is trying to do, because if you look at the curriculum that we've 00:13:58.480 --> 00:14:05.080 got now, the curriculum is so strict and restraint in the, and the site system. 00:14:05.260 --> 00:14:08.230 We've got something called progress site, progress agents. 00:14:08.845 --> 00:14:14.065 It's focusing on the it subjects, which they deem is the only subject. 00:14:14.365 --> 00:14:20.575 And so they're the eight double English, maths, triple science, uh, at a back. 00:14:20.665 --> 00:14:25.255 Some schools are doing, which is, um, uh, humanity, geography, geography, 00:14:25.255 --> 00:14:27.655 history, um, and the language. 00:14:27.955 --> 00:14:31.915 So what they've done is they've taken all of the creative subjects 00:14:32.275 --> 00:14:35.425 and made them even extra curricular. 00:14:36.510 --> 00:14:37.500 You have to pay for them. 00:14:37.740 --> 00:14:43.410 So I know in some quite a lot of schools, technology is not even on, 00:14:43.470 --> 00:14:47.910 on the curriculum in terms of food technology textiles, and you see all 00:14:47.910 --> 00:14:52.170 the cooking programs that we've got on TV and you haven't got food technology 00:14:52.170 --> 00:14:54.750 in school, you know, which is a major. 00:14:54.750 --> 00:14:56.300 So of so-so how. 00:14:56.895 --> 00:14:58.454 Uh, keypad nation healthy. 00:14:58.574 --> 00:14:59.954 That's taken off the curriculum. 00:15:00.314 --> 00:15:02.745 Uh, textiles is taken off of the curriculum because 00:15:02.745 --> 00:15:03.915 they're really expensive. 00:15:04.755 --> 00:15:08.714 Product design is taken off of the curriculum because it's too expensive. 00:15:09.045 --> 00:15:13.875 So what you're doing and what this government is, is socially engineering 00:15:14.055 --> 00:15:20.505 is a system where the private sector can come in and tight control 00:15:20.594 --> 00:15:22.155 what they've done and always done. 00:15:22.395 --> 00:15:24.165 Let's not forget pre. 00:15:25.430 --> 00:15:31.890 Uh, uh, creativity in London and London were between 52 and 56 billion pounds of. 00:15:33.330 --> 00:15:36.030 And if you look at that, that is money. 00:15:36.120 --> 00:15:38.160 That is a real cloud real well. 00:15:38.490 --> 00:15:45.240 And if you restrict it just to the select fruit, phew, as you saw in Maya, small 00:15:45.240 --> 00:15:51.900 video, disproportionate, top heavy with the selective schools, the selected 00:15:51.900 --> 00:15:54.120 university, et cetera, et cetera. 00:15:54.240 --> 00:15:54.900 What about the rest? 00:15:55.740 --> 00:15:56.100 Yeah. 00:15:58.320 --> 00:15:58.650 Yeah. 00:15:58.740 --> 00:16:01.410 Stephen Drew: Well, my background, I, I, you know, my parents were 00:16:01.410 --> 00:16:05.070 supportive as much as they could, but we come from humble beginnings as 00:16:05.070 --> 00:16:08.700 well, but I'm going to, there's a point you mentioned in there and I agree. 00:16:08.730 --> 00:16:09.240 So, yeah. 00:16:09.300 --> 00:16:13.745 So my, my old career advisor would, I loved, as he said, You have to do English 00:16:13.745 --> 00:16:18.215 and maths, but I like you, I would love the full choice of these courses. 00:16:18.215 --> 00:16:21.075 And so, and you have to work as you will welcome me in. 00:16:21.185 --> 00:16:24.185 And he knows where I was like, I haven't got a very good language brain. 00:16:24.185 --> 00:16:25.055 I'm good at arts. 00:16:25.075 --> 00:16:27.485 I'm good at certain things I can talk, but I was not good 00:16:27.485 --> 00:16:28.715 at studying other languages. 00:16:28.925 --> 00:16:31.025 And so I got kind of forced in the classroom. 00:16:32.255 --> 00:16:33.545 The hell to do with this? 00:16:33.635 --> 00:16:35.465 Well, your chance really creaky stay stuff. 00:16:36.425 --> 00:16:36.845 Don't worry. 00:16:37.085 --> 00:16:41.675 Well, well, but, so I was the, I was there. 00:16:41.675 --> 00:16:45.635 Um, I was the guy in Wilde's class and I couldn't do it and my 00:16:45.635 --> 00:16:49.205 concentration was going, so I always used to be naughty in the end and 00:16:49.205 --> 00:16:51.215 the teacher would be Stephen's table. 00:16:51.245 --> 00:16:52.415 Cause I was so loud. 00:16:52.444 --> 00:16:53.255 I was so loud. 00:16:53.255 --> 00:16:54.125 So I used to get into. 00:16:54.765 --> 00:16:57.915 And a borderline not try it, disrupt the classes so that people 00:16:57.915 --> 00:16:59.575 learn, but that was straight in. 00:16:59.575 --> 00:17:03.195 And then my outlet was that it was amazing when they then went on to college 00:17:03.195 --> 00:17:07.215 from comprehensive school, because I could do it when I loved computers. 00:17:07.395 --> 00:17:09.105 And then I loved graphic design. 00:17:09.105 --> 00:17:12.555 And like, to me, graphic design was so cool because I could learn 00:17:12.555 --> 00:17:14.385 a DOE Photoshop and illustrator. 00:17:14.385 --> 00:17:17.355 And I was so inspired at the time by sensei because that. 00:17:17.800 --> 00:17:20.919 Because I'm showing my age and my wealth sensate you, the movie was out 00:17:20.919 --> 00:17:22.919 back then and it was so liberating. 00:17:22.970 --> 00:17:26.050 So I think it's amazing all this stuff. 00:17:26.109 --> 00:17:28.870 And so we launched the video at the stop. 00:17:29.470 --> 00:17:32.050 One of the reasons that we're here, that's a little bit of the background 00:17:32.050 --> 00:17:35.169 than some of these agendas are so important right now in detail. 00:17:35.320 --> 00:17:38.950 But how about we talk a little bit about Graham goes, go global. 00:17:38.950 --> 00:17:40.480 So I've got the trailer. 00:17:41.165 --> 00:17:44.225 For 36 seconds from last year, maybe we pray. 00:17:44.225 --> 00:17:47.254 This is the show, the audience I got to try and get it up first 00:17:47.254 --> 00:17:48.604 and then we'll get back going. 00:17:48.875 --> 00:17:52.774 And then you can tell us a little bit about what you're doing this year. 00:17:52.774 --> 00:17:53.915 We're going and got Scoble. 00:17:54.155 --> 00:17:56.074 But also we all lie. 00:17:56.104 --> 00:18:00.245 If so, if anyone has any questions for Neil or after this video or the 00:18:00.245 --> 00:18:02.405 first video, you can bring it up. 00:18:02.675 --> 00:18:03.695 Any, no questions. 00:18:03.695 --> 00:18:06.365 I will not put them on the stage, but any, any other 00:18:06.365 --> 00:18:07.955 questions they can totally be on. 00:18:08.774 --> 00:18:11.445 Well, let me add this video now, and then we'll jump into it. 00:18:11.745 --> 00:18:17.175 So you tell me if you can both hear the sounds gentlemen, can you hear. 00:18:19.020 --> 00:18:20.260 No, no, no. 00:18:20.969 --> 00:18:22.350 Uh, I dunno. 00:18:22.379 --> 00:18:25.649 I'll have to make up the sound. 00:18:29.639 --> 00:18:31.320 Let me get a bit of sound going. 00:18:52.409 --> 00:18:53.100 Amazing. 00:18:53.129 --> 00:18:57.659 Check it out on YouTube and listen to the proper song that was on that, 00:18:57.959 --> 00:19:02.639 not my, not my butchered song, but so let me just pause this here as 00:19:02.639 --> 00:19:04.590 well and bring it down so amazing. 00:19:04.590 --> 00:19:08.790 So nail, tell us all the flavor for your background. 00:19:08.790 --> 00:19:09.149 Then. 00:19:09.510 --> 00:19:10.979 Let me, let me write this. 00:19:11.040 --> 00:19:11.939 Yeah, here we go. 00:19:12.419 --> 00:19:13.560 I'm the center of the stage. 00:19:13.889 --> 00:19:14.310 What's going on? 00:19:14.885 --> 00:19:18.304 So nail something inspired you to do so we got the inspiration there as well. 00:19:18.304 --> 00:19:20.405 So what is actually, crime goes global. 00:19:21.665 --> 00:19:25.445 Neil Pinder: So Glenville global came about, because one of my fantastic 00:19:25.445 --> 00:19:32.155 students, she was in year 11 and she came to me because she, uh, teaches, 00:19:32.155 --> 00:19:36.635 says, uh, she was doing textiles and I teach product design, but it's the 00:19:36.635 --> 00:19:39.004 same course, the same AQR course. 00:19:39.455 --> 00:19:44.430 And unfortunately she wasn't, um, She wasn't achieving a full potential 00:19:44.430 --> 00:19:45.720 in the class that she was in. 00:19:45.960 --> 00:19:51.240 So she came to me and sat with me and my lesson during the same period of time. 00:19:51.570 --> 00:19:54.810 And basically she was like a sponge, everything I told 00:19:54.810 --> 00:19:56.250 her she did and she did more. 00:19:56.730 --> 00:19:58.650 And she was absolutely amazing. 00:19:58.860 --> 00:20:02.850 But what actually was the tipping point for glam guys globally? 00:20:02.880 --> 00:20:04.590 Because the kids know, I love Gucci. 00:20:04.800 --> 00:20:06.180 They know I love Louis veto. 00:20:06.630 --> 00:20:08.910 And so she basically. 00:20:09.525 --> 00:20:13.575 Uh, wanted to go on to uni to study interior design. 00:20:13.935 --> 00:20:18.185 And so she said, so let me just take my portfolio to a couple of 00:20:18.195 --> 00:20:23.535 OB, uh, colleges and see how I get on just to see what I need to do. 00:20:23.925 --> 00:20:29.205 And so she's pre pre planning really well organized pre-planning of when she leaves 00:20:29.505 --> 00:20:34.575 and yet setting to go on to see what you need to get to, to go into the university. 00:20:35.545 --> 00:20:38.995 And one person in a university crushed her. 00:20:39.235 --> 00:20:44.215 And this is where, um, I employ, uh, lectures and people. 00:20:44.215 --> 00:20:48.295 When you see people coming, don't just say to them, you will never 00:20:49.075 --> 00:20:50.725 be good enough to go to applies. 00:20:51.145 --> 00:20:52.165 And that's what happened. 00:20:52.195 --> 00:20:55.585 Somebody said that to, she came back to me and she came back with a 00:20:55.585 --> 00:21:00.295 portfolio and I always get emotional when I said, because it's so sad. 00:21:00.595 --> 00:21:03.770 And she said, yeah, I don't think I want to do it. 00:21:03.860 --> 00:21:04.820 There's no point. 00:21:05.300 --> 00:21:06.920 And I said, there is a point. 00:21:07.430 --> 00:21:11.600 And, um, and then I was just lying in bed one night and I saw Gucci 00:21:11.630 --> 00:21:16.510 Louis Vitton and I came up with the idea of Gucci, uh, architecture, 00:21:16.540 --> 00:21:21.410 Louis Vitton, and me means include important because when they see the 00:21:21.410 --> 00:21:23.600 word made, they know it's inclusive of. 00:21:24.285 --> 00:21:26.715 And the region as themselves. 00:21:27.195 --> 00:21:30.465 And anyway, I took it to the couple of architects and there's one 00:21:30.465 --> 00:21:34.815 architect called Ramsey Yaffa, and who owns a practice called normal? 00:21:35.085 --> 00:21:36.465 He's basically said nail. 00:21:36.765 --> 00:21:38.565 And he turned it in into the nightclub. 00:21:38.625 --> 00:21:43.435 I can, uh, He said, why don't you call it Gucci, lose it on Architecture 00:21:43.435 --> 00:21:46.015 and me, and that's how that was born. 00:21:46.315 --> 00:21:52.165 So what it is is it's, it's an intersection and it's teaching young 00:21:52.165 --> 00:21:57.625 people that architecture and fashion, they both work hand in hand and they both 00:21:57.625 --> 00:22:03.205 use a similar scaffolding to actually enable you to come out with final product. 00:22:03.475 --> 00:22:03.775 And then. 00:22:04.680 --> 00:22:06.570 To to disconnected there. 00:22:06.570 --> 00:22:11.760 Isn't fashion-wise over here and, and, and, uh, Architectural over here. 00:22:11.940 --> 00:22:17.750 And the reason why I chose, um, Gucci and Louis Vitton is because you and I. 00:22:19.155 --> 00:22:25.004 I will young people, they love iconic brands and the iconic brands sell them. 00:22:25.304 --> 00:22:28.185 The story that yes, you wear Gucci, you wear loose. 00:22:28.245 --> 00:22:31.514 They're turning your, this, this, this, this, but the iconic brands are 00:22:31.514 --> 00:22:37.334 not necessarily interested in the non traditional students that who come 00:22:37.334 --> 00:22:39.074 along and save up all their money. 00:22:39.535 --> 00:22:44.875 Just to buy a belt or this, this, this, this, and so subsequently 00:22:44.965 --> 00:22:47.545 I'm Santa Gucci, Louis Vitton. 00:22:47.545 --> 00:22:49.795 And I'm saying it now, and I'm looking at your faces. 00:22:50.185 --> 00:22:52.225 Join us on glam support. 00:22:52.225 --> 00:22:54.055 Gland land goes global. 00:22:54.055 --> 00:22:56.335 We're connected to south America. 00:22:56.515 --> 00:22:58.315 We're connected to the Caribbean. 00:22:58.435 --> 00:22:59.965 We're connected to Europe. 00:23:00.115 --> 00:23:01.915 We've got architectural practices. 00:23:02.389 --> 00:23:08.510 And a university up and down the country involved in the fashion side, involved 00:23:08.510 --> 00:23:13.969 in the architecture side, instead of got any idea of what they can do and 00:23:13.969 --> 00:23:18.830 inspire, uh, people of non-traditional and traditional backgrounds, tell them to 00:23:18.830 --> 00:23:21.139 come and join us if they have it in them. 00:23:21.409 --> 00:23:24.469 But, you know, I've been reaching out to Gucci. 00:23:24.469 --> 00:23:27.110 I've been reaching out to live with them and that I feel. 00:23:27.815 --> 00:23:32.345 If they acknowledge me, then I think that gives me some sort of oxygen and 00:23:32.345 --> 00:23:34.205 they might have to do a big payout. 00:23:34.385 --> 00:23:41.405 Big pat would be good, but they need, they need to recognize that young people 00:23:41.405 --> 00:23:43.325 are the future and don't use them. 00:23:43.535 --> 00:23:48.755 You know, we feel the diversity you have in your ad, but it's not in your showroom. 00:23:49.025 --> 00:23:53.795 We see all the diversity you have, you know, advertising the trainers, the 00:23:53.795 --> 00:23:55.685 coats, the jackets, the jumpers, the. 00:23:56.470 --> 00:24:01.480 You know, not, not just future, not just move it on, but old and I 00:24:01.480 --> 00:24:03.490 am brand, but you need to change. 00:24:03.490 --> 00:24:07.510 You need to embrace us because we're the ones who are making your money. 00:24:07.690 --> 00:24:10.450 And without us, it was not the young people. 00:24:10.870 --> 00:24:13.300 You wouldn't have the pal, you wouldn't have the money. 00:24:13.540 --> 00:24:18.790 So they need to realize sooner than later that at some point that might be 00:24:18.790 --> 00:24:24.165 a tipping point where somebody stands up and says, you know, Let's not wear their 00:24:24.175 --> 00:24:26.295 brands and see what they say for a day. 00:24:28.875 --> 00:24:29.475 Stephen Drew: I love that. 00:24:29.535 --> 00:24:30.735 Do you know what I was trying to do? 00:24:30.785 --> 00:24:31.815 Neil and the backgrounds here. 00:24:31.815 --> 00:24:32.365 So you will. 00:24:32.565 --> 00:24:35.625 So my first year in architecture, I went to the university of Westminster 00:24:35.925 --> 00:24:38.775 and it's for the first semester, but the brief, yeah, the brief 00:24:38.775 --> 00:24:41.235 was to get wearable Architecture. 00:24:41.385 --> 00:24:41.835 Okay. 00:24:41.985 --> 00:24:43.515 So there's a picture somewhere. 00:24:43.695 --> 00:24:46.605 I came up with a bright idea of attaching myself to the surrounding. 00:24:46.605 --> 00:24:48.375 So I developed the bouts. 00:24:48.585 --> 00:24:48.885 Okay. 00:24:48.885 --> 00:24:52.185 And the bow had loads of fish hooks and they attached it to some way. 00:24:52.485 --> 00:24:53.985 And so I've got a picture here. 00:24:54.225 --> 00:24:55.545 I saw I'm going to find it. 00:24:56.200 --> 00:24:59.470 And I'll post it on the Architecture Social after, but you've got 00:24:59.470 --> 00:25:02.140 me wearing this fish bouts. 00:25:02.140 --> 00:25:07.870 So I as well have I've I, maybe I was that, but you know what I mean? 00:25:07.900 --> 00:25:11.140 I agree with your idea before great minds think alike. 00:25:11.140 --> 00:25:12.460 So wearable Architecture. 00:25:13.274 --> 00:25:17.085 Don at 2006, but I haven't got the face for it anymore. 00:25:18.675 --> 00:25:20.385 I don't think I can model that anymore. 00:25:20.415 --> 00:25:22.575 I've got plenty of Ted baker, which don't fit me. 00:25:22.605 --> 00:25:23.264 It's like my goal. 00:25:23.745 --> 00:25:24.014 Yeah. 00:25:25.455 --> 00:25:26.355 That's amazing. 00:25:26.355 --> 00:25:28.725 Well, I'm sure you have a few questions here as well. 00:25:28.784 --> 00:25:31.095 Is there anything that, um, cause I know as well, you were 00:25:31.095 --> 00:25:32.895 burning to meet Neil here before. 00:25:33.254 --> 00:25:35.625 Do you have any questions about Graham goes global Neil. 00:25:37.155 --> 00:25:37.395 I was 00:25:37.395 --> 00:25:37.754 Music: kind of 00:25:37.754 --> 00:25:39.225 Neil Pinder: curious too. 00:25:40.470 --> 00:25:44.760 To well know about how glam got his name, but you already talked about that. 00:25:44.760 --> 00:25:46.560 So I don't want to get you repeating yourself again, 00:25:46.830 --> 00:25:48.210 but I'm also curious to know. 00:25:48.300 --> 00:25:53.490 So my squeaky chair and my moving camera, um, why is it 00:25:53.610 --> 00:25:54.480 it's kind of a double question. 00:25:54.530 --> 00:25:56.070 Why is it so important to you? 00:25:56.130 --> 00:26:00.330 And also just in general, for the diversity of people 00:26:00.330 --> 00:26:01.260 going into architecture. 00:26:01.824 --> 00:26:02.844 Stepping away from glam. 00:26:02.844 --> 00:26:05.695 Going back to what we talked about earlier, why is it so important to 00:26:05.695 --> 00:26:09.264 you and just in general, to have more inclusivity from everyone, 00:26:09.445 --> 00:26:10.975 uh, to get into architecture? 00:26:13.284 --> 00:26:17.604 Well, the reason why is because, um, we don't live in the monitoring world. 00:26:17.635 --> 00:26:26.205 We don't live in just, uh, uh, A certain sector, um, having just one 00:26:26.205 --> 00:26:29.355 site over what we do all the time. 00:26:29.355 --> 00:26:35.145 I mean, it may appear something, but, um, we need to make sure that we spread out. 00:26:35.385 --> 00:26:37.485 And as I was saying, there is a rich. 00:26:38.429 --> 00:26:41.909 You know, we've got, you know, you've got acetate art, you've 00:26:41.909 --> 00:26:44.459 got, you know, uh, Aboriginal lot. 00:26:44.490 --> 00:26:51.540 You got all that Europeans have taken over the years and put in into that culture. 00:26:51.719 --> 00:26:55.770 And, but they own, they called it their, their own Architectural there. 00:26:56.885 --> 00:27:03.425 So we need to know that we who are just as talented as everybody else, that we 00:27:03.425 --> 00:27:06.665 can design the houses that we live in. 00:27:06.935 --> 00:27:12.544 Uh, and we can have a fail how our community is developed in terms of 00:27:12.544 --> 00:27:14.584 the infrastructure, lack of community. 00:27:14.945 --> 00:27:19.415 And rather than having it imposed by somebody who doesn't understand 00:27:19.415 --> 00:27:23.254 what diversity is, because on this, unless you live in a diverse 00:27:23.614 --> 00:27:25.445 community, you don't really know. 00:27:26.200 --> 00:27:31.330 Come along, like what a few, well, what the companies usually do come along to 00:27:31.330 --> 00:27:33.850 a quick survey and say, yes, yes, yes. 00:27:33.850 --> 00:27:37.030 We've got, you know, an idea of how people live, for example. 00:27:37.240 --> 00:27:42.190 And social has, and I grew up on a counseling site and, and always 00:27:42.190 --> 00:27:46.180 having this very same discussion with one, my friend, just the other day. 00:27:46.540 --> 00:27:51.730 And, and where I lived in my council house, they put the bins right outside. 00:27:52.310 --> 00:27:55.550 Of the door that you walk into the, into your flat. 00:27:56.120 --> 00:28:02.630 Now, if you look at, uh, the more gated community has, is the bins a never 00:28:02.630 --> 00:28:06.710 seen at the outside of the flat, if you will five with a pile of rubbish, 00:28:06.920 --> 00:28:08.590 but why do you subject that to. 00:28:09.419 --> 00:28:11.159 Why do you subject the pity? 00:28:11.310 --> 00:28:13.199 Why do you subject it to people like us? 00:28:13.439 --> 00:28:14.879 We, we don't want the bees. 00:28:14.879 --> 00:28:18.540 We don't want this man at the rubbish as we will can up the stairs. 00:28:18.720 --> 00:28:24.540 We don't want the shoot to be seen as you walk in into the block of flats. 00:28:24.990 --> 00:28:30.240 So if you ever lived in blocker flat, so have you ever come from so social 00:28:30.240 --> 00:28:36.179 hasn't you and know that there's some primary, um, uh, requirements that. 00:28:37.365 --> 00:28:41.505 No, because we have lived there that you don't know, just filling 00:28:41.505 --> 00:28:44.325 out a survey because you don't really talk to the people. 00:28:44.805 --> 00:28:47.925 And this is why I want people like us. 00:28:48.735 --> 00:28:53.235 To be engaged in how we build and shape our community for 00:28:53.235 --> 00:28:55.125 the next millennium to come. 00:28:55.395 --> 00:28:57.524 And I think it'd be much richer. 00:28:58.004 --> 00:29:04.665 Uh, uh, if we, uh, look upon it on, uh, in total inclusivity of, of building 00:29:04.665 --> 00:29:06.665 a new environment and a new way for. 00:29:07.530 --> 00:29:08.699 Stephen Drew: Um, I agree in there. 00:29:08.699 --> 00:29:12.439 I think there's like nothing but positive theory that comes out of, um, being 00:29:12.459 --> 00:29:16.110 inclusive and diverse and actually the strongest architectural practices that 00:29:16.350 --> 00:29:17.639 I've seen them we've actually seen. 00:29:17.639 --> 00:29:21.449 Well, cause we've been fortunate to, uh, to work in recruitment, especially when I 00:29:21.449 --> 00:29:25.139 did work in recruitment with really good companies and actually those that are 00:29:25.139 --> 00:29:27.360 inclusive of international Architecture. 00:29:28.030 --> 00:29:30.399 And this is what was that, as you say, different backgrounds, different 00:29:30.399 --> 00:29:34.929 ethnicities, different sexualities, then it all kind of works out for the better. 00:29:34.929 --> 00:29:38.080 And it kind of actually informs the design in my opinion. 00:29:38.470 --> 00:29:44.290 And then I think it also helps, um, challenge sometimes cause some 00:29:44.290 --> 00:29:45.790 architectural practices maybe. 00:29:46.560 --> 00:29:49.830 Particular style, but actually the more inclusive and the more 00:29:49.830 --> 00:29:53.910 diverse the practice, I think the more versatile they design is, 00:29:53.910 --> 00:29:55.500 and they actually do really well. 00:29:55.680 --> 00:29:58.830 So, you know, and this well is that there's massive benefits. 00:29:58.860 --> 00:30:00.630 The being inclusive and diverse. 00:30:00.630 --> 00:30:04.170 Everyone wants to work in a place where they feel included. 00:30:04.200 --> 00:30:07.180 And, and what was his strength and that scenario that you use before. 00:30:07.910 --> 00:30:12.080 I think we're slowly moving away, Neil, from an architecture we're getting that 00:30:12.080 --> 00:30:16.280 still a lot of work to do, but we're moving away from that example that used 00:30:16.280 --> 00:30:22.160 at the start with, you know, that that lady bless her, the young, the inspired 00:30:22.190 --> 00:30:26.420 student who went to the university and they kind of went, what is this? 00:30:27.050 --> 00:30:28.820 Well, you can't do that anymore. 00:30:28.820 --> 00:30:30.590 All of us now, because we were in this online age. 00:30:31.230 --> 00:30:36.120 Like that, that age, old architecture way of you mass struggle like I did. 00:30:36.120 --> 00:30:37.470 And you need to be the best. 00:30:37.470 --> 00:30:39.180 That's kind of like old news. 00:30:39.180 --> 00:30:41.909 It's like, now it's almost like, oh yeah, good for you. 00:30:41.909 --> 00:30:43.260 But I'm not doing that. 00:30:43.500 --> 00:30:44.850 And what's really interesting. 00:30:44.850 --> 00:30:47.580 You've got stuff like now with like the feature architects who were 00:30:47.790 --> 00:30:52.290 representing students rights and when we've got stuff, like Graham goes global 00:30:52.290 --> 00:30:53.970 as a celebration of all this stuff. 00:30:53.970 --> 00:30:55.379 And actually I'm amazed. 00:30:56.090 --> 00:30:59.120 If you're a smart employer and then you're involved in this stuff, you 00:30:59.120 --> 00:31:01.760 can find like really raw talent there. 00:31:01.760 --> 00:31:03.950 That could be part of your practice. 00:31:03.950 --> 00:31:07.940 So why, you know, why wouldn't you go to these events and pick up like 00:31:08.120 --> 00:31:09.800 the rising stars of the future? 00:31:09.800 --> 00:31:12.950 I'm sure you've seen on the other end of that nail, that people 00:31:12.950 --> 00:31:14.090 have been inspired from this. 00:31:14.090 --> 00:31:16.970 And then I've gone on to the start of really good careers. 00:31:16.970 --> 00:31:20.330 Do you have any mini success stories of any one that's 00:31:20.330 --> 00:31:21.380 been involved in this stuff? 00:31:21.740 --> 00:31:22.190 Doing what. 00:31:23.205 --> 00:31:25.275 Neil Pinder: Yeah, we got some, we've got loads. 00:31:25.275 --> 00:31:29.295 We've got Joseph Henry who basically is absolutely amazing. 00:31:29.325 --> 00:31:34.785 He's basically he works for the GLI, but he also runs an initiative 00:31:34.815 --> 00:31:37.095 called uh, our sand advice. 00:31:37.545 --> 00:31:38.835 I've got Mo Warren. 00:31:40.510 --> 00:31:40.810 Yeah. 00:31:40.870 --> 00:31:46.480 A Sanders license, absolutely amazing that Pooja and Joseph or Joseph, him too. 00:31:46.870 --> 00:31:51.700 So I used to teach Joseph and he went on to become an architect. 00:31:51.700 --> 00:31:56.260 He actually, we've got him back to be help work in the practice 00:31:56.500 --> 00:31:58.150 that designed the sit-com block. 00:31:58.420 --> 00:32:03.400 So you see how the circular economy of education can work out because he knew. 00:32:03.965 --> 00:32:08.675 At this school, he knew quite a lot about the have their school 00:32:08.675 --> 00:32:11.495 lab was so it was familiar to him. 00:32:11.705 --> 00:32:16.475 So it was a natural progression that he went on to help develop 00:32:16.475 --> 00:32:17.645 and build the new block. 00:32:17.825 --> 00:32:18.275 So, yeah. 00:32:18.275 --> 00:32:20.055 So Joseph is behind this. 00:32:20.075 --> 00:32:22.085 He's amazing Mark Warren. 00:32:23.044 --> 00:32:24.764 Absolutely fantastic. 00:32:24.784 --> 00:32:28.145 He used to work for student ed grit, and now we worked from us 00:32:28.145 --> 00:32:30.635 and counsel and he is amazing. 00:32:30.935 --> 00:32:34.715 I've got, um, uh, alumni all over the place. 00:32:34.715 --> 00:32:37.415 I've got a young lady called Rosie Murphy. 00:32:37.625 --> 00:32:41.794 She is, um, uh, Don and Wells doing them also one of my. 00:32:42.720 --> 00:32:44.129 Fantastic young ladies. 00:32:44.129 --> 00:32:49.290 Now she's just got a nymi Julia Green and she's working on gland goes global. 00:32:49.439 --> 00:32:50.399 She's amazing. 00:32:50.429 --> 00:32:55.409 I told her at school and she went to the Bartlett and from the Bartlet now she is 00:32:55.409 --> 00:32:57.689 gone go in next year to the Royal college. 00:32:58.110 --> 00:33:02.100 So we've got stories of this all over the place that people 00:33:02.310 --> 00:33:05.340 are in the circle and they, and what's the amazing part about it. 00:33:06.045 --> 00:33:07.455 They come back and help me. 00:33:07.695 --> 00:33:12.285 So if you come to glam goes global, you will see in some of the bright tap 00:33:12.285 --> 00:33:15.255 rooms, some of the students, I used to teach you a company come out and he 00:33:15.255 --> 00:33:17.205 takes some of the ones who are in pop. 00:33:17.235 --> 00:33:20.655 One, some of the ones who, and between part one and part 00:33:20.655 --> 00:33:22.185 two, et cetera, et cetera. 00:33:22.185 --> 00:33:27.705 They're, they're the ones who give life to the whole main of full diversity. 00:33:28.380 --> 00:33:32.130 And they're the ones who give me the energy to keep on moving on. 00:33:32.370 --> 00:33:37.140 So yes, we have successfully, every one of them is a success story from where 00:33:37.140 --> 00:33:41.310 they come from, from where they go in and well, and up there, they're all 00:33:41.310 --> 00:33:46.260 success stories is, and, and a site, uh, young people, we, we don't find. 00:33:47.004 --> 00:33:49.824 We might change direction, but we don't fail. 00:33:50.034 --> 00:33:53.064 And failure is not a, it's not an, a, the cavalry. 00:33:53.215 --> 00:33:57.504 You only learn from things that you may do wrong that need improvement. 00:33:57.524 --> 00:34:02.995 So there's no fowl and success is measurable by your own goals. 00:34:03.205 --> 00:34:07.135 Not by other people, necessarily putting a monetary value on what 00:34:07.135 --> 00:34:13.255 successes, successes, if you, if you win or get three other people to become 00:34:13.255 --> 00:34:14.665 architects, I see that as a success. 00:34:15.825 --> 00:34:22.575 So it depends what your criteria is and, um, in terms of the big Architectural 00:34:22.575 --> 00:34:27.585 companies and the universities that are beginning to shift and in general in 00:34:27.585 --> 00:34:28.965 life, people are beginning to shift. 00:34:29.145 --> 00:34:33.705 And what they're realizing is, uh, and I talk about it quite a lot in the past. 00:34:34.284 --> 00:34:36.085 The control and the money. 00:34:36.384 --> 00:34:41.364 So this is what they're all scared of United for free 200 years, the 00:34:41.364 --> 00:34:46.404 architecture, uh, so, uh, buddies up in the same led by the same people. 00:34:46.705 --> 00:34:50.514 And they said the ones who have the power that shared the control with 00:34:50.514 --> 00:34:55.585 their friends and subsequently that shit, the money, which is ultimately 00:34:55.585 --> 00:34:58.255 their own own own, I ain't the only. 00:34:59.210 --> 00:35:00.600 Uh, over the years. 00:35:00.870 --> 00:35:04.500 So what's happening now is I'm telling you straight, you don't, you 00:35:04.500 --> 00:35:08.370 can give up power, you could give up control and spread the money. 00:35:08.520 --> 00:35:12.750 There's enough money for everybody, not just you and little friends, 00:35:12.750 --> 00:35:15.180 but it's for everybody to share. 00:35:15.390 --> 00:35:17.130 And, and I would implore them. 00:35:17.190 --> 00:35:23.040 And I would say to them, don't be scared to relinquish the power we the control, 00:35:23.220 --> 00:35:26.940 because at the end of the day, if it gets taken away from you, you leave, 00:35:27.000 --> 00:35:27.360 Stephen Drew: lose it. 00:35:28.185 --> 00:35:28.515 Yeah. 00:35:28.814 --> 00:35:29.174 Yeah. 00:35:29.234 --> 00:35:29.984 Very true. 00:35:30.225 --> 00:35:30.794 I love it. 00:35:30.825 --> 00:35:32.355 I think there's a lot of gems in there. 00:35:32.384 --> 00:35:33.345 I've just noticed as well. 00:35:33.345 --> 00:35:36.225 When you're out in the garden there aren't you I'm jealous. 00:35:36.855 --> 00:35:40.544 I put my blinds down because otherwise I look like, I look like the second 00:35:40.544 --> 00:35:42.254 coming of Christ because of the light. 00:35:43.814 --> 00:35:45.165 I wish I was in the garden 00:35:46.274 --> 00:35:46.694 Neil Pinder: over here. 00:35:46.725 --> 00:35:47.325 It's like clouds 00:35:47.924 --> 00:35:48.765 Stephen Drew: light in the Maria. 00:35:49.035 --> 00:35:52.274 Well, bless him is in his little cave by luck. 00:35:52.305 --> 00:35:54.855 That was illuminating and inspiring. 00:35:55.044 --> 00:35:55.395 Right? 00:35:56.370 --> 00:35:59.009 The people need to get involved, and this is happening now, and this 00:35:59.009 --> 00:36:01.020 is the plan and our conversation. 00:36:01.029 --> 00:36:03.930 So we S we met on the clubhouse and all this stuff. 00:36:04.169 --> 00:36:04.830 That's cool. 00:36:05.189 --> 00:36:08.279 But what's exciting is hopefully as well. 00:36:08.279 --> 00:36:10.859 I know we've got the Delta wave coming up and all this 00:36:10.859 --> 00:36:12.240 stuff, but should all go away. 00:36:13.515 --> 00:36:18.795 The plants ought to do something exciting this year with glam goes global. 00:36:18.915 --> 00:36:24.285 So in terms of events or what you're organizing right now, do you want 00:36:24.285 --> 00:36:28.215 to give people an insight on what we have ahead of us as well, in 00:36:28.215 --> 00:36:32.445 terms of maybe events or ways that people can get involved in ground? 00:36:32.445 --> 00:36:32.865 We've got cold. 00:36:33.535 --> 00:36:34.225 It grant go. 00:36:34.285 --> 00:36:37.375 Graham goes global in a physical way. 00:36:39.115 --> 00:36:44.694 Neil Pinder: Um, and for now, what we're focusing on, we're focusing on the 17th 00:36:44.694 --> 00:36:51.145 and 18th of July, where we're, where we're connected to, as I said, literally global 00:36:51.145 --> 00:36:58.075 older countries that are initially, uh, ninth and that's a live boom, what shell. 00:36:58.435 --> 00:37:01.554 And literally we got the young people from The Gambia. 00:37:02.265 --> 00:37:04.005 So my school was really good. 00:37:04.305 --> 00:37:10.485 We've got 20, I've got, we've got ad department to refurbish 29 books and we've 00:37:10.575 --> 00:37:16.035 sent them over to The Gambia so that they can, uh, be interactive in the workshop. 00:37:16.365 --> 00:37:21.645 And we've hooked chop with another charity in the, in, in, uh, Tampa and Florida 00:37:21.945 --> 00:37:24.675 who are doing really good things post. 00:37:25.815 --> 00:37:26.384 Expo. 00:37:26.655 --> 00:37:31.575 And so everything at the moment is geared towards the 17th and 18th, 00:37:31.785 --> 00:37:34.545 Saturday and Sunday, glammed verbal. 00:37:36.075 --> 00:37:38.235 We've got tutors, we've got breakout rooms. 00:37:38.295 --> 00:37:40.965 We've got absolutely fantastic tutors. 00:37:41.325 --> 00:37:47.325 And it's from 11 till four on the Saturday and 12 to four on the Sunday. 00:37:48.185 --> 00:37:52.205 After that I'm launching another initiative, which we've been, 00:37:52.325 --> 00:37:56.915 we've gotten the PO line, it's called a small to big to small. 00:37:57.395 --> 00:38:02.615 And, um, and, uh, w I'm working with a couple of really good architects 00:38:02.615 --> 00:38:07.865 and an Ensign in my mind of all of the ideas that I've had over the years. 00:38:08.165 --> 00:38:09.995 And it's a fantastic architect. 00:38:10.055 --> 00:38:10.775 Who's leading it. 00:38:11.310 --> 00:38:12.090 Dennis Austin. 00:38:12.360 --> 00:38:15.090 And he's, he's got a shooter called DOB design. 00:38:15.330 --> 00:38:16.320 He's amazing. 00:38:16.590 --> 00:38:21.780 And, and he listens and we sit down and he writes, and he's literally, 00:38:21.960 --> 00:38:25.800 we're launching that, uh, sometime, maybe in the back end of July. 00:38:26.010 --> 00:38:30.480 But we're hoping to, when we do a glam, those global and I 00:38:30.480 --> 00:38:32.190 forgot we're working with the. 00:38:33.870 --> 00:38:34.530 Fantastic. 00:38:34.530 --> 00:38:35.760 Penn, Penn people. 00:38:35.760 --> 00:38:40.080 We're doing a live event, literally on the Saturday and Sunday run from 00:38:40.080 --> 00:38:43.710 the old Kent valley, wherever sending an architect and wherever we've 00:38:43.710 --> 00:38:45.870 got young people who will be there. 00:38:46.210 --> 00:38:48.960 And that will be really good. 00:38:48.960 --> 00:38:51.390 So Nicholas, so we run 10 people. 00:38:52.375 --> 00:38:59.185 So good you to think in series and people, Nicholas is amazing pens people, 00:38:59.485 --> 00:39:04.285 and he is in El camp and he's got these damages and he's confessed to them. 00:39:04.495 --> 00:39:08.925 He's got even more energy than me, but yes, we were in at work involve 00:39:08.925 --> 00:39:14.845 these architectural practices and we supported by Reba was supported by, 00:39:15.085 --> 00:39:17.575 uh, the great characteristics, Carson. 00:39:18.720 --> 00:39:24.419 Um, we've um, uh, Alice Whitman, who's amazing from the Architectural foundation, 00:39:24.720 --> 00:39:31.529 um, buttress architects who are based up in Manchester and, and Harriet Harris. 00:39:31.529 --> 00:39:34.529 Who's connected to the practice Institute, New York, who's 00:39:34.529 --> 00:39:36.120 supporting the whole of glamazon. 00:39:36.120 --> 00:39:38.640 He's global as well, and we're getting students and the. 00:39:39.500 --> 00:39:42.460 And from New York to take part in it life. 00:39:42.760 --> 00:39:46.660 So, and having a Harrison, she's amazing if you've never met professor 00:39:46.660 --> 00:39:50.740 Howard habits, just look at some of the work she's done and the work that 00:39:50.740 --> 00:39:53.470 she's doing, she is amazing as well. 00:39:53.710 --> 00:39:57.160 So we've got so many different people from all over the world. 00:39:57.430 --> 00:40:03.820 Plus our own alumni Francis long, uh, Rosie Murphy, Georgia green and older. 00:40:03.820 --> 00:40:05.260 These people from everywhere. 00:40:06.049 --> 00:40:11.660 Come in and they just mock in and I get the whole, uh, whole idea 00:40:11.660 --> 00:40:14.180 of a community of a family going. 00:40:14.480 --> 00:40:16.279 And they're really, really good. 00:40:16.430 --> 00:40:22.009 But alternatively, LinkedIn, Neil pinned on LinkedIn, just ping me. 00:40:22.220 --> 00:40:25.970 And I'm getting those opinions at the moment, but I'll try and get back 00:40:25.970 --> 00:40:29.690 to you in the next couple of days and say to you, welcome to homegrown 00:40:29.690 --> 00:40:31.790 plus, which is what we're all about. 00:40:32.000 --> 00:40:33.740 Homegrown grew up. 00:40:35.010 --> 00:40:36.780 All of my students, they are home grown. 00:40:36.930 --> 00:40:38.190 So they're scattered everywhere. 00:40:39.735 --> 00:40:43.515 Even in Dubai, Jason and Dubai, if you're listening, they got right. 00:40:43.785 --> 00:40:47.025 And, uh, we, uh, so they are homegrown. 00:40:47.235 --> 00:40:51.735 And then the pluses, all the ones that they bring to me that 00:40:51.735 --> 00:40:53.115 we connect to other people. 00:40:53.115 --> 00:40:54.975 So that is the idea of Homeland. 00:40:55.755 --> 00:41:01.545 Um, my other initiatives celebrate in architecture is which I do with, 00:41:01.635 --> 00:41:07.005 uh, with, uh, uh, Novaka tent pool, Benicia Wolfenson, and it's infused 00:41:07.215 --> 00:41:12.765 young people from the ages of five up to that setting full team. 00:41:13.155 --> 00:41:14.535 So we've got that. 00:41:14.655 --> 00:41:20.655 And plus I'm a, uh, trustee of T E T educational truck. 00:41:21.905 --> 00:41:23.725 Uh, and I've got to do some big outside. 00:41:23.725 --> 00:41:27.725 A couple of people I work with that is that's a serenade 00:41:27.725 --> 00:41:28.475 that we're going to be doing. 00:41:28.475 --> 00:41:30.515 And won't show me that we're going to be doing in September 00:41:30.695 --> 00:41:35.945 to remove people in shoes of a people to get into architecture. 00:41:36.125 --> 00:41:39.265 So if you know of anybody we're going to post that takes. 00:41:39.970 --> 00:41:45.790 Uh, uh, Ruby doing that and that ceremony will be in September. 00:41:46.090 --> 00:41:49.540 And then the is let's build, which on the vice chair room. 00:41:49.779 --> 00:41:54.970 So let's build basically it's run by a coordinated by an, that Fisher 00:41:55.150 --> 00:41:59.920 and it's about empowering women and they want to be the first soldier, 00:42:00.250 --> 00:42:02.259 uh, organization in England. 00:42:03.220 --> 00:42:08.320 Uh, women, total bill from the ground all the way up, which is really, really good. 00:42:08.650 --> 00:42:10.240 And they've got, uh, we've got. 00:42:11.130 --> 00:42:14.310 Uh, let's build this Thursday at seven o'clock. 00:42:14.550 --> 00:42:18.960 So if you type in that, so you can link into that and in Kanga, which is 00:42:18.960 --> 00:42:25.430 another initiative run by Leighton raid and it's got a fantastic, um, um, um, 00:42:25.500 --> 00:42:30.570 I did ideology behind it where it's, it's got a mentoring schemes as well 00:42:30.960 --> 00:42:37.050 and enlightened, uh, he's a professor at west of London, I think if I'm correct. 00:42:37.050 --> 00:42:38.190 So he's really good. 00:42:39.295 --> 00:42:42.955 Lots of old blueprint for all, which is formerly this stays 00:42:42.955 --> 00:42:44.215 anonymous tracks with trauma. 00:42:44.485 --> 00:42:48.955 I've been a trustee of for years, uh, which in today's young people, 00:42:49.045 --> 00:42:52.134 again from non tradition, traditional backgrounds, and it gives them 00:42:52.134 --> 00:42:53.965 bursaries that supports them. 00:42:54.235 --> 00:42:56.965 And if there's some, if you go on their website, you can see 00:42:57.145 --> 00:43:01.645 everything, but they're just some of the initiatives that are IMS myself. 00:43:01.675 --> 00:43:05.875 And so is that it's a free 60 of engaging with people. 00:43:06.420 --> 00:43:08.970 Who want to engage with us? 00:43:08.970 --> 00:43:12.480 Number one and who want to become creative because. 00:43:13.650 --> 00:43:16.740 When you become an architect, you don't have to be an architect. 00:43:16.920 --> 00:43:21.029 You can do anything else because there are transferable skills that you learn. 00:43:21.330 --> 00:43:25.650 It's not just an architect for stuff you're learning all of that 00:43:25.740 --> 00:43:30.150 multidisciplinary transferable skills that you level once or 00:43:30.150 --> 00:43:34.440 entit yourself around the creative field or other things in life. 00:43:34.440 --> 00:43:39.629 You might find yourself moving on to anthropology, et cetera, et cetera. 00:43:40.200 --> 00:43:40.770 And that reminder. 00:43:42.149 --> 00:43:43.859 Um, nailing me pay mouse. 00:43:44.580 --> 00:43:48.000 Uh, who's in Bolivia, absolutely fantastic person. 00:43:48.270 --> 00:43:49.890 And you're talking about education. 00:43:50.189 --> 00:43:53.069 She looks at quantum education. 00:43:55.620 --> 00:43:56.399 Stephen Drew: Amazing. 00:43:56.459 --> 00:43:57.390 Well, that's awesome. 00:43:57.390 --> 00:43:59.279 I think you've got to give you a run of applause that fall. 00:43:59.279 --> 00:44:03.149 You're doing so much stuff, so much exciting stuff going on. 00:44:03.209 --> 00:44:06.480 I tried frantically typing a banner while you're talking 00:44:06.480 --> 00:44:09.689 about, but I couldn't keep up. 00:44:09.750 --> 00:44:11.730 And I was too engaged and I thought, you know what? 00:44:11.790 --> 00:44:15.930 It's got a typo in it and everything about Centene 18 for July. 00:44:16.140 --> 00:44:19.020 Everyone needs to keep those dates in the diary. 00:44:19.955 --> 00:44:23.045 Oh, well, I was thinking it's like, that's a really nice segue. 00:44:23.045 --> 00:44:26.855 Maybe what we'll do now, guys, because we're popping up to the 44 minute mark. 00:44:27.335 --> 00:44:28.505 Uh, what could be coolest? 00:44:28.505 --> 00:44:30.245 Cause I love that video at the start. 00:44:30.245 --> 00:44:31.325 Maybe what we'll do. 00:44:31.325 --> 00:44:33.095 Cause I can see a lot of people have joined. 00:44:33.095 --> 00:44:37.055 The sense is that we'll play out the video that we had at the start then. 00:44:37.055 --> 00:44:39.035 So unless there's anything else you want to particularly. 00:44:39.810 --> 00:44:43.710 Maybe what we'll do is we'll play that video out so that everyone can enjoy 00:44:43.710 --> 00:44:45.810 it again and end the live stream. 00:44:45.990 --> 00:44:50.340 But before we do that now, do you have any kind of final thoughts at all? 00:44:52.620 --> 00:44:53.130 Neil Pinder: Yeah. 00:44:53.220 --> 00:44:53.700 Listen to. 00:44:56.175 --> 00:44:58.245 Because you said you're full of energy. 00:44:58.515 --> 00:45:02.445 And when I met you on your club house, I thought you was crazy and nothing's 00:45:02.445 --> 00:45:04.665 changed, but it's good to have. 00:45:05.895 --> 00:45:10.065 It's good to have energy and not, not, not the usual books pick in 00:45:10.065 --> 00:45:15.705 person in the room and you people like yourself only as vitality life, 00:45:16.035 --> 00:45:18.795 passion to work usually to see. 00:45:20.455 --> 00:45:23.035 Stephen Drew: I really appreciate that there, listen to this though. 00:45:23.035 --> 00:45:24.714 We'll hear is a survivor. 00:45:24.774 --> 00:45:29.455 Do you know what he, a survivor of a traumatic and life rewarding experience? 00:45:29.964 --> 00:45:31.015 I was his boss 00:45:34.134 --> 00:45:34.955 in the office. 00:45:35.720 --> 00:45:36.410 So, what did I do? 00:45:36.440 --> 00:45:38.290 Hopefully I inspired you as well. 00:45:38.290 --> 00:45:41.569 Well, but I used to, I have once or twice celebrate your screens together. 00:45:41.569 --> 00:45:42.110 I didn't mind. 00:45:42.110 --> 00:45:43.549 So no one said doing that to you now. 00:45:44.210 --> 00:45:45.860 So you get a lot of quiet. 00:45:46.370 --> 00:45:51.710 Is your productivity gone up like 200% since I'm black in 00:45:51.710 --> 00:45:52.970 the department now in the air. 00:45:52.990 --> 00:45:56.029 So in one way, but we had, we had some good times as well. 00:45:57.480 --> 00:45:58.259 And I think, 00:45:58.319 --> 00:46:01.040 Neil Pinder: I think we'll deserve the biggest round of, 00:46:01.650 --> 00:46:03.600 Stephen Drew: well, you're a survivor. 00:46:05.069 --> 00:46:07.589 You, uh, I wish I got the Dubbo ones for that. 00:46:07.920 --> 00:46:10.890 So this probably summarizes Will's experiences me as a boss. 00:46:17.350 --> 00:46:18.410 Music: It was a bad ESOS. 00:46:18.740 --> 00:46:19.010 Neil Pinder: Yeah. 00:46:19.040 --> 00:46:20.420 You, you inspired me. 00:46:20.420 --> 00:46:25.370 And I think as well, like you, you know, your energy and everything is just like 00:46:25.370 --> 00:46:27.050 infectious, it's infectious to everyone. 00:46:27.050 --> 00:46:28.460 Anyone that has energy is infectious. 00:46:28.460 --> 00:46:28.730 Stephen Drew: Generally. 00:46:29.090 --> 00:46:30.650 I think you need that in life. 00:46:31.880 --> 00:46:32.900 That's really sweet. 00:46:32.900 --> 00:46:36.590 Well, well, well, we will work together because you need someone 00:46:36.590 --> 00:46:39.140 to balance you out in the, when you've got this energy here. 00:46:39.140 --> 00:46:41.810 So years ago I would call a secret online life. 00:46:41.810 --> 00:46:42.710 I shouldn't probably say that. 00:46:43.245 --> 00:46:47.715 I did one of them psychometric test, and they were like, you are charismatic. 00:46:48.075 --> 00:46:51.105 You've got great ideas, but you're incredibly unstable. 00:46:52.585 --> 00:46:53.745 How much my balance. 00:46:53.755 --> 00:46:55.425 Me, what was the worst? 00:46:55.425 --> 00:46:55.755 It was. 00:46:56.625 --> 00:46:58.515 Um, disorganized. 00:46:59.895 --> 00:47:00.615 And that is true. 00:47:00.625 --> 00:47:01.424 That is true. 00:47:01.575 --> 00:47:05.535 I always double book things and I have to work really hard on being 00:47:05.535 --> 00:47:08.234 organized, but you got to know your strengths and you gotta know your 00:47:08.234 --> 00:47:11.835 weaknesses in life and you can embrace weaknesses and they can be a positive. 00:47:12.044 --> 00:47:14.654 And I always say that my attention span is really short. 00:47:14.654 --> 00:47:18.975 And actually that goes two ways, because then if something, if something grabs 00:47:18.975 --> 00:47:21.165 my attention, normally that means that. 00:47:21.884 --> 00:47:22.395 Wow. 00:47:22.484 --> 00:47:27.345 You know, so I really try hard to listen to everything, but if I naturally 00:47:27.615 --> 00:47:32.084 engage with something, then I think that that's a really good barometer. 00:47:32.205 --> 00:47:34.814 What someone's doing something really well, they presenting 00:47:34.814 --> 00:47:36.194 really well and all that stuff. 00:47:36.435 --> 00:47:38.834 Well, it ties to my short attention in the office. 00:47:38.834 --> 00:47:39.225 Isn't it? 00:47:39.225 --> 00:47:42.584 Well, you're telling me something and he'd be like, stay, are you listening? 00:47:43.225 --> 00:47:43.825 Yeah. 00:47:45.715 --> 00:47:47.215 Neil Pinder: Now when you're not listening, I can tell 00:47:47.215 --> 00:47:48.055 when you're not this thing. 00:47:48.055 --> 00:47:49.075 Stephen Drew: And then I just go. 00:47:49.585 --> 00:47:50.005 Yeah. 00:47:50.035 --> 00:47:50.455 Okay. 00:47:50.575 --> 00:47:50.845 Yeah. 00:47:50.945 --> 00:47:53.365 You seem very responsive and I'm just like, yeah. 00:47:54.825 --> 00:47:56.355 So he knows, but we're all there. 00:47:56.355 --> 00:47:57.825 And then I look, look, this has been, 00:47:58.545 --> 00:48:01.395 Neil Pinder: can I, can I just tell you one of the things, um, 00:48:01.635 --> 00:48:07.545 the great who basically works for fostered well is fostered Jorah. 00:48:07.815 --> 00:48:14.205 He said, um, One thing always surround yourself, the more intelligent people 00:48:14.205 --> 00:48:18.415 than yourself, because then it makes you look intelligent, intelligent. 00:48:18.675 --> 00:48:20.395 So that's what I tried to do. 00:48:20.415 --> 00:48:24.255 Immerse myself with like the people more intelligent and there's somewhere in 00:48:24.255 --> 00:48:26.445 between, you can come apply to yourself. 00:48:26.685 --> 00:48:32.175 But the last thing is, I would say a Gucci lazy town join us. 00:48:32.715 --> 00:48:33.345 Don't be afraid. 00:48:36.165 --> 00:48:37.665 Stephen Drew: Oh mate, they should do. 00:48:37.665 --> 00:48:41.565 If Gucci's listening to my podcasts, then I'm going to have a difference. 00:48:41.595 --> 00:48:45.195 I'm going to be in a luxurious position next year, but hopefully this message 00:48:45.435 --> 00:48:48.165 gets out to that in the meantime. 00:48:48.195 --> 00:48:48.795 Oh, to task. 00:48:48.795 --> 00:48:56.445 If you're listening, I am more in the open for sponsorships, but in the short time, 00:48:56.475 --> 00:48:58.275 and in the meantime, until we have that. 00:48:59.455 --> 00:49:00.715 Goes global. 00:49:00.745 --> 00:49:06.565 I did get this, you put this in the diary, put the 17th and 18, 17, 18. 00:49:06.625 --> 00:49:07.255 That's just me. 00:49:07.405 --> 00:49:10.855 But if you sent in, keep that weekend open and for anyone 00:49:10.855 --> 00:49:12.895 listening, drop, nail a message. 00:49:12.895 --> 00:49:14.935 So an hour, and then we're on club house. 00:49:15.055 --> 00:49:17.995 There is the football this week, but Neil is around and he 00:49:17.995 --> 00:49:19.505 will answer your messages on. 00:49:20.130 --> 00:49:21.360 And ask about this stuff. 00:49:21.360 --> 00:49:24.000 And if anyone's got any ideas, send them over. 00:49:24.000 --> 00:49:26.130 If anyone wants to get involved, do it as well. 00:49:26.250 --> 00:49:30.390 Neil is also on the Architecture, Social SU anyone can contact him there, 00:49:30.480 --> 00:49:33.900 but LinkedIn, we are all that you have seen this live stream as well. 00:49:33.900 --> 00:49:36.690 So do get in contact with Neil. 00:49:36.900 --> 00:49:39.690 You're an absolute legend of, um, of a guest. 00:49:39.930 --> 00:49:43.560 And I think that you should, you, you, you definitely have the 00:49:43.560 --> 00:49:45.150 makings of a natural presenter. 00:49:45.770 --> 00:49:48.320 So if I get hit by a bus, there's a job for you. 00:49:50.360 --> 00:49:50.720 Thank you. 00:49:50.720 --> 00:49:54.980 So on that note, I think how about we play the video again, 00:49:55.040 --> 00:49:56.330 just for anyone that joined us. 00:49:56.540 --> 00:50:00.380 And then after that, what I'll do when the video ends I'll end the live stream? 00:50:00.470 --> 00:50:04.160 Well, I know you're busy as well, but you can shoot off during the video. 00:50:04.160 --> 00:50:07.190 If you want, you have my blessing or you can stick around for a chat 00:50:07.220 --> 00:50:09.470 after Neil and well, stick around. 00:50:09.470 --> 00:50:11.630 If you want to chat after the video, I will end. 00:50:12.605 --> 00:50:15.665 And anyone in the audience get in touch and enjoy this video. 00:50:15.725 --> 00:50:16.985 Once again, let's go. 00:50:17.915 --> 00:50:18.545 Let's go. 00:50:18.695 --> 00:50:19.205 Let's go. 00:50:19.235 --> 00:50:19.865 Let's go. 00:50:20.495 --> 00:50:21.395 Can we all hear it though? 00:50:21.455 --> 00:50:22.115 That's the one thing 00:50:30.635 --> 00:50:31.115 Music: my name is 00:50:32.015 --> 00:50:34.835 . Neil Pinder: I'm a product design and architecture teacher at 00:50:34.895 --> 00:50:36.485 bravely school, stuff like that. 00:50:36.545 --> 00:50:38.555 And I'm passionate for that Architecture. 00:50:42.385 --> 00:50:44.065 Music: Y'all got to change my locks. 00:50:44.665 --> 00:50:46.135 Neil Pinder: I'm going to use my own dice. 00:51:00.415 --> 00:51:02.665 Music: This is my, this is my son. 00:51:05.535 --> 00:51:13.155 And what I like this, this is what I love about you. 00:51:57.255 --> 00:51:58.545 There's a risk that diversity 00:51:58.545 --> 00:52:00.225 Neil Pinder: becomes a box ticking exercise. 00:52:00.465 --> 00:52:02.265 It's about inclusiveness 00:52:02.295 --> 00:52:03.165 Music: for its own sake. 00:52:03.615 --> 00:52:05.865 My egg to my son. 00:52:08.715 --> 00:52:14.715 What I like and what I do is what I love. 00:52:15.555 --> 00:52:16.335 How about you? 00:52:49.670 --> 00:52:49.970 We're 00:52:49.970 --> 00:52:53.330 Neil Pinder: seeing this terrifying collapse at the moment in creative 00:52:53.330 --> 00:52:58.690 education, particularly in state secondary school, we've seen for example, at 57. 00:52:59.700 --> 00:53:04.710 And the number of 16 year olds in design and technology GCSE society will be 00:53:04.710 --> 00:53:08.550 diminished if we're only recruiting people from the top tier, from the 00:53:08.550 --> 00:53:10.770 elite of our education system, into the 00:53:10.770 --> 00:53:11.520 Music: creative industry. 00:53:15.660 --> 00:53:15.840 what 00:53:15.840 --> 00:53:18.810 Neil Pinder: we need to do is set some new accountability. 00:53:19.705 --> 00:53:22.315 That includes a broader range of success criteria. 00:53:22.315 --> 00:53:26.605 So being successful in drama or music or art would not be seen 00:53:26.605 --> 00:53:30.085 as a lesser achievement of being successful in history or French 00:53:30.085 --> 00:53:30.265 Music: toast. 00:54:21.750 --> 00:54:22.529 How about you? 00:54:32.850 --> 00:54:33.569 I think it's quite 00:54:33.569 --> 00:54:37.710 Neil Pinder: important for people like me who are working as architects, as 00:54:37.710 --> 00:54:42.870 planners in positions of influence to be more proactive in reaching out to 00:54:42.870 --> 00:54:46.710 people who don't think that they can study architecture, study planning. 00:54:46.950 --> 00:54:49.470 That's really important that we are role modeled so that 00:54:49.470 --> 00:54:50.910 there aren't more people like us 00:54:51.090 --> 00:54:51.779 Music: during this process. 00:54:51.840 --> 00:54:52.110 So 00:54:52.170 --> 00:54:54.569 Neil Pinder: what we want to do is what white around the 00:54:54.569 --> 00:54:56.670 country draw out that creativity. 00:54:57.810 --> 00:54:58.290 So many 00:54:58.290 --> 00:54:58.860 Music: communities. 00:55:06.450 --> 00:55:06.960 My son. 00:55:44.085 --> 00:55:44.535 Neil Pinder: on behalf 00:55:44.535 --> 00:55:45.435 Music: of the big man, like 00:55:45.435 --> 00:55:45.945 Stephen Drew: bonus 00:55:48.975 --> 00:55:54.825 Neil Pinder: goes globally on Saturday, on Sunday, the 17th and 18th of July, 2021. 00:55:55.154 --> 00:55:59.595 It's an infusion for sustainable wearable architecture, fashion, clericals. 00:56:00.330 --> 00:56:01.770 And it's a homegrown plus. 00:56:02.009 --> 00:56:09.839 And then superstar is coming up with sort of a Gucci architecture on the 17th and 00:56:09.839 --> 00:56:15.509 the 18th of July, 2021 be there or be square because it's going to be wicked. 00:56:24.810 --> 00:56:26.490 Stephen Drew: Thank you everyone for joining. 00:56:26.560 --> 00:56:28.740 Be there in the 17, 18 July. 00:56:28.770 --> 00:56:29.339 I'm Stephen. 00:56:30.020 --> 00:56:32.600 Thank you with a fantastic nail nail before I go, if you want 00:56:32.600 --> 00:56:33.680 to say goodbye to everyone. 00:56:35.570 --> 00:56:35.870 Neil Pinder: Yeah. 00:56:35.900 --> 00:56:36.710 Thank you very much. 00:56:37.210 --> 00:56:39.140 Listen, and then absolutely fantastic. 00:56:39.140 --> 00:56:39.470 Thank you. 00:56:39.470 --> 00:56:39.740 Will. 00:56:39.740 --> 00:56:40.550 Thank you, Steven. 00:56:42.770 --> 00:56:43.850 Stephen Drew: Absolutely. 00:56:44.300 --> 00:56:47.840 I will be there in some shape or form in the 17th or 18th of July. 00:56:49.010 --> 00:56:50.060 Everyone have a good day. 00:56:50.090 --> 00:56:53.510 I'm going to end the broadcast now and you guys want to stay here 00:56:53.510 --> 00:56:55.010 for the event, then we can do it. 00:56:55.340 --> 00:56:55.790 Thank you.