WEBVTT NOTE This file was generated by Descript 00:00:00.024 --> 00:00:02.033 Jason Shen: My guest today is Khe Hy. 00:00:02.433 --> 00:00:07.498 Khe Hy surfs almost every morning and writes Rad reads a blog about transforming 00:00:07.558 --> 00:00:12.868 your relationship with time, work, and money, and ultimately yourself. 00:00:13.258 --> 00:00:17.368 He also teaches Supercharge Your Productivity, the Premier class 00:00:17.368 --> 00:00:23.008 on designing a system for doing $10,000 an hour work, 10 K work. 00:00:23.098 --> 00:00:28.498 He's been called Oprah for millennials by CNN and the Wall Street Guru by Bloomberg. 00:00:28.828 --> 00:00:32.848 Before Rad Reads, he spent 15 years in finance becoming the youngest 00:00:32.853 --> 00:00:36.748 director at one of the world's largest asset management firms. 00:00:37.248 --> 00:00:39.488 Khe, tell us your thesis. 00:00:39.638 --> 00:00:40.748 Khe Hy: Hello everyone. 00:00:40.778 --> 00:00:41.348 Thank you. 00:00:41.348 --> 00:00:48.499 So my thesis is that productivity is about a lot more than getting things done. 00:00:48.649 --> 00:00:51.049 I teach a course called Supercharge Your Productivity. 00:00:51.049 --> 00:00:54.425 I've been at productivity aficionado since my twenties. 00:00:54.425 --> 00:00:55.235 I'm 43 now. 00:00:55.299 --> 00:00:58.353 So half my life I've spent reading productivity, books, 00:00:58.593 --> 00:01:00.303 blogs, podcasts, and so on. 00:01:00.693 --> 00:01:04.352 I've taught the course Supercharge Your Productivity as like the main 00:01:04.352 --> 00:01:08.875 business line for Rad Reads for two and a half years, 12 cohorts, 00:01:08.916 --> 00:01:11.504 over 850 students have taken it. 00:01:11.660 --> 00:01:14.900 But I wanna tell you why this thesis is quite interesting. 00:01:14.900 --> 00:01:17.520 At the beginning of every course, we do a warm seat. 00:01:17.520 --> 00:01:20.716 We don't call it hot seat cuz we're gentle and we're kind and we don't wanna, put 00:01:20.716 --> 00:01:22.322 the spotlight on too bright on anyone. 00:01:22.322 --> 00:01:25.532 So we do a warm seat and we had to do this five why's exercise. 00:01:25.982 --> 00:01:29.329 For those of you who aren't familiar with the five why's, it's like an old Toyota 00:01:29.329 --> 00:01:34.184 production way to basically diagnose kind of root causes of problems, right? 00:01:34.184 --> 00:01:35.354 It comes from manufacturing. 00:01:35.924 --> 00:01:37.214 And so we asked them the five why's. 00:01:37.754 --> 00:01:40.334 Why did you enroll in supercharge your productivity? 00:01:40.724 --> 00:01:42.374 And you have to go down every why. 00:01:42.374 --> 00:01:44.624 You have to go one level deeper, one level deeper. 00:01:44.624 --> 00:01:47.752 So first they'll say my organizational system is a mess. 00:01:48.022 --> 00:01:49.042 That's the first why. 00:01:49.642 --> 00:01:54.466 And so you say why is it important that your organizational system not be a mess? 00:01:54.976 --> 00:01:56.176 So they get to the second why. 00:01:56.266 --> 00:01:58.934 The second why is because I struggle to get anything done. 00:01:59.151 --> 00:02:02.070 And so we're like why is it important for you to get things done? 00:02:02.220 --> 00:02:03.290 And then they get to the third why. 00:02:03.380 --> 00:02:07.882 Third why is cause to get things done means that you add value to the 00:02:07.882 --> 00:02:09.512 world or you make an impact, right? 00:02:09.662 --> 00:02:13.160 And so then you get to the fourth why: why is it important to make an impact? 00:02:13.165 --> 00:02:15.121 We're just going down the chain here, right? 00:02:15.391 --> 00:02:17.161 Why is it important to make an impact? 00:02:17.326 --> 00:02:19.486 Then usually get, we call it the fifth why, refer to it for 00:02:19.726 --> 00:02:20.866 the following eight sessions. 00:02:20.866 --> 00:02:25.306 The fifth why is usually some version of " if I don't make an impact, I'm unlovable." 00:02:25.376 --> 00:02:28.768 " I'm scared of ending my life and being irrelevant." 00:02:28.879 --> 00:02:33.079 " People have never respected me, impact is the only way I can earn people's respect." 00:02:33.229 --> 00:02:34.702 And it goes on and on. 00:02:34.882 --> 00:02:40.745 And this fifth why is this cauldron of kind of unmet needs 00:02:40.955 --> 00:02:45.545 or desires or just human cravings. 00:02:46.145 --> 00:02:48.455 And I always zoom people, like people are in tears. 00:02:48.485 --> 00:02:51.815 the informal tagline is, come for the productivity, stay for the existential. 00:02:51.819 --> 00:02:54.719 We use productivity as a gateway for the soul, right? 00:02:55.239 --> 00:03:00.009 And so that fifth why really quickly and the whole class, and I tell 00:03:00.009 --> 00:03:02.799 people very gently cuz they're in the warm seat, not the hot seat. 00:03:02.799 --> 00:03:09.079 I say, you realize that you just invested $2,000 in a productivity course because, 00:03:09.379 --> 00:03:13.489 You have a fear of irrelevance, let's put those two things together, right? 00:03:13.552 --> 00:03:18.482 Is GTD or is quick capture really gonna solve a fear of irrelevance? 00:03:18.902 --> 00:03:23.756 And let's just acknowledge the connection, so then it widens the aperture on 00:03:24.026 --> 00:03:26.183 everything we're trying to accomplish here