WEBVTT NOTE This file was generated by Descript 00:00:05.034 --> 00:00:08.244 Kelli Calabrese: Hello Renovo Friends, this is Kelli, and today I'm here with Dr. 00:00:08.244 --> 00:00:09.544 Audrey Turbeville. 00:00:09.564 --> 00:00:11.244 Audrey, thank you so much for being with us. 00:00:11.814 --> 00:00:13.584 Dr. Audrey Turbeville: Hey, thanks for having us again. 00:00:13.644 --> 00:00:14.844 I really love this product. 00:00:14.849 --> 00:00:16.254 Love doing things with y'all. 00:00:16.484 --> 00:00:17.994 Kelli Calabrese: Oh, well we love to interview you. 00:00:17.994 --> 00:00:18.894 You are so fun. 00:00:18.894 --> 00:00:19.764 You're fun to watch. 00:00:19.769 --> 00:00:23.324 We love seeing you, your team out there, just in the trenches, having 00:00:23.424 --> 00:00:24.894 fun while you're helping the animals. 00:00:25.114 --> 00:00:25.475 Dr. Audrey Turbeville: Yes, we try. 00:00:25.494 --> 00:00:26.514 We try to have fun. 00:00:26.514 --> 00:00:29.634 I mean, work's no fun anyway, but you better make the best of it. 00:00:30.534 --> 00:00:31.164 Kelli Calabrese: I agree. 00:00:31.164 --> 00:00:32.844 Well, you're, you seem to be doing that. 00:00:33.144 --> 00:00:37.454 So you're at Top Gun Veterinary and you are in South Carolina. 00:00:37.874 --> 00:00:42.084 You have a new facility, which we're so excited and we know you've got 00:00:42.084 --> 00:00:43.794 lots of plans for things to come. 00:00:43.794 --> 00:00:46.104 Give us an idea of something that's coming up for you. 00:00:47.274 --> 00:00:49.404 Dr. Audrey Turbeville: So right now we've been doing a lot of lameness 00:00:49.404 --> 00:00:54.444 things and we are wanting to do, shoot a lot of venograms, which we want to 00:00:54.444 --> 00:01:01.104 incorporate that with Renovo and seeing if, they have limited blood supply 00:01:01.104 --> 00:01:06.474 on the foot, which can cause a lot of problems in growing the foot or it 00:01:06.474 --> 00:01:08.544 can make sure if the foot won't grow. 00:01:08.544 --> 00:01:11.964 So we're trying to see about hopefully getting paired up with Renovo. 00:01:11.979 --> 00:01:15.799 And trying to do that, growing and helping the blood vessels to grow better. 00:01:16.577 --> 00:01:20.479 We've been doing a lot of things as far as suspensory ligaments, tears in 00:01:20.624 --> 00:01:25.239 ligaments so we've been doing a lot of those and having some great results. 00:01:25.239 --> 00:01:26.499 Really good results with that. 00:01:26.889 --> 00:01:27.909 Kelli Calabrese: Well, that's so great. 00:01:28.209 --> 00:01:29.679 We're, excited to hear more about it. 00:01:29.679 --> 00:01:34.279 You really have been a pioneer of sorts, entrusting this Renovo product, even 00:01:34.279 --> 00:01:36.769 though it's been in over 12,000 horses. 00:01:37.189 --> 00:01:41.629 You have really been just sort of leading the way and trying it in different cases. 00:01:41.629 --> 00:01:43.849 Can you share an example with us there? 00:01:43.849 --> 00:01:45.499 Dr. Audrey Turbeville: Well, there was one case that we did 00:01:45.499 --> 00:01:47.099 for care, Tinnitus on an eye. 00:01:47.747 --> 00:01:50.849 Nobody has done, I don't think anybody did anything with that. 00:01:51.649 --> 00:01:56.420 So we, stuck it in there and I injected it, Sub Conjunctively and 00:01:56.425 --> 00:02:02.364 then added it topically and then within I went and rechecked it about three 00:02:02.364 --> 00:02:06.009 weeks ago, cuz that was the earliest I could get back, and it's fine. 00:02:06.009 --> 00:02:10.629 And then that was a couple months ago, and then I actually went back, 00:02:10.839 --> 00:02:15.999 injected his hocks with Renovo as a prevention, because he's a, I think he 00:02:15.999 --> 00:02:19.959 was a 10 year old and she was fixing to really start working him heavy. 00:02:19.959 --> 00:02:24.649 So she wanted to do a prevention, which I love doing Renovo, more so as 00:02:24.649 --> 00:02:28.939 a prevention than your H A and your steroids because if we can stay away 00:02:28.939 --> 00:02:31.699 from the steroids this would be great. 00:02:32.079 --> 00:02:36.479 It's, so much better than injecting steroids every time we turn around. 00:02:37.189 --> 00:02:40.519 So I went back and did his hocks for that and so we stained 00:02:40.519 --> 00:02:41.899 the eye to double check it. 00:02:42.414 --> 00:02:45.144 No stain uptake on was over the moon. 00:02:45.144 --> 00:02:46.074 Still excited. 00:02:46.074 --> 00:02:47.784 The horse has done really great. 00:02:47.789 --> 00:02:52.554 No draining, no anything, so she was really, impressed and 00:02:52.559 --> 00:02:54.024 really happy with the product. 00:02:54.564 --> 00:02:55.824 Kelli Calabrese: Wow, that's fantastic. 00:02:55.829 --> 00:02:59.574 So what have you seen in comparing the steroids to the Renovo? 00:02:59.664 --> 00:03:00.044 The difference. 00:03:00.684 --> 00:03:04.794 Dr. Audrey Turbeville: Well, I see that the Renovo, of course, lasts longer and 00:03:04.974 --> 00:03:11.704 way longer better results, more more taking down inflammation and, the time 00:03:11.724 --> 00:03:17.844 span of how they act for a soreness and everything is like if you give it a good 00:03:17.844 --> 00:03:24.049 24 hours, the tops I've seen three days, that you can see, they walk off better. 00:03:24.379 --> 00:03:27.019 They, move better within a short period of time. 00:03:27.289 --> 00:03:30.439 I also like it because I've got one horse now. 00:03:30.444 --> 00:03:37.044 He is actually a three year old and he was injected at the beginning of this 00:03:37.044 --> 00:03:41.484 year with Renovo and, you know, we don't wanna put steroids in a three year old if 00:03:41.484 --> 00:03:47.274 we can prevent that, but he had ill joint when he was little, so we know that he has 00:03:47.279 --> 00:03:51.504 had cartilage damage and that hock, his hocks a little bigger than the other one. 00:03:52.101 --> 00:03:55.404 We're actually looking at, I think we did it at the beginning of this year. 00:03:55.404 --> 00:03:58.674 He's in another growth spurt and when he grows like that, he gets 00:03:58.924 --> 00:04:04.224 a little gimpy and then we inject it and it shows that he's fine. 00:04:04.229 --> 00:04:07.764 Like he does great for another six months and he's only three. 00:04:07.914 --> 00:04:11.814 I would've never dreamed of sticking a steroid in a three year old, but 00:04:11.819 --> 00:04:15.744 with this not being a steroid, it makes, it's a game changer for us. 00:04:16.169 --> 00:04:17.244 It's a huge game changer. 00:04:18.024 --> 00:04:19.494 Kelli Calabrese: That makes a lot of sense. 00:04:19.764 --> 00:04:22.814 What's another case you've used Renovo in that you were impressed by? 00:04:23.874 --> 00:04:28.734 Dr. Audrey Turbeville: One of the ones I did was an ear case for I 00:04:28.734 --> 00:04:31.944 think it was either sarcoidosis or squamous cell carcinoma. 00:04:32.274 --> 00:04:36.054 I hadn't had a chance to, we didn't biopsy because money was an issue, 00:04:36.324 --> 00:04:41.784 but we, injected this in a 30 year old mare and the ear is damaged. 00:04:41.784 --> 00:04:44.334 The cartilage is damaged, so the ear flops over. 00:04:44.844 --> 00:04:47.754 But the ear is, completely healed. 00:04:48.024 --> 00:04:51.504 And where where it wasn't a possibility beforehand. 00:04:51.834 --> 00:04:57.504 And I've, I just injected another ear case on Thursday, and I actually sent 00:04:57.504 --> 00:05:02.724 the biopsy off to the lab and I'm, still, and it's still pending, so I'll, 00:05:02.724 --> 00:05:04.674 know exactly what I'm dealing with. 00:05:05.034 --> 00:05:09.054 And we already injected it with Renovo. 00:05:09.374 --> 00:05:12.789 And you are to see how it's healing up even since Thursday. 00:05:13.109 --> 00:05:14.744 Like it is closing up. 00:05:14.744 --> 00:05:14.954 Yeah. 00:05:14.954 --> 00:05:18.134 She's sending me daily pictures, so I'm trying to get that together and 00:05:18.134 --> 00:05:24.554 everything, but it's, amazing how since, what was that Thursday, Friday like days 00:05:24.974 --> 00:05:27.524 and it's already like almost closed. 00:05:28.712 --> 00:05:29.724 Another big case. 00:05:29.724 --> 00:05:33.684 I know, I think we've talked about Petey before with the horse that has 00:05:33.684 --> 00:05:36.324 been cut since December of last year. 00:05:36.324 --> 00:05:41.394 He's probably got about a two and a half by two and a half wound on his foot 00:05:41.399 --> 00:05:44.004 that is almost completely closed up. 00:05:45.154 --> 00:05:50.024 He walks really like he should be playing since he severed 00:05:50.024 --> 00:05:51.114 all attendants in the back. 00:05:51.444 --> 00:05:55.119 He is completely pretty much pasture sound. 00:05:55.989 --> 00:05:58.329 The wound is healing fantastic. 00:05:58.329 --> 00:05:59.589 He is doing great. 00:05:59.859 --> 00:06:04.569 He gained all his muscle back around his croup area from 00:06:04.569 --> 00:06:06.699 where it was so atrophied like. 00:06:06.699 --> 00:06:11.949 He is doing phenomenal and the biggest thing is he's alive, Like he is alive 00:06:12.069 --> 00:06:14.689 right now, so, which is fantastic. 00:06:16.049 --> 00:06:16.489 Kelli Calabrese: Wow. 00:06:16.519 --> 00:06:17.189 I agree. 00:06:17.574 --> 00:06:20.544 Well, I know you've used it in a lot of cases, and obviously you've built 00:06:20.544 --> 00:06:23.934 a lot of trust in this product because of the results that you've seen. 00:06:23.939 --> 00:06:27.624 And now, would it be fair to say that you're choosing Renovo before 00:06:27.624 --> 00:06:31.594 some of the other traditional things where vets were sort of last resort. 00:06:32.259 --> 00:06:32.829 Dr. Audrey Turbeville: Yes. 00:06:32.859 --> 00:06:38.349 Nowadays, like, you know, I, there was there was an arthritic case the other day. 00:06:38.349 --> 00:06:39.789 She went straight to Renovo. 00:06:39.849 --> 00:06:42.549 When I offered them to 'em, they asked me my opinion. 00:06:42.819 --> 00:06:47.289 I tell 'em yes, this is gonna, in the, you know in the long 00:06:47.294 --> 00:06:48.759 run this is gonna be better. 00:06:48.764 --> 00:06:52.449 It's gonna be less steroids in an animal longer with the product. 00:06:52.449 --> 00:06:59.594 You don't have to do it every six months like we did with the H A. 00:06:59.674 --> 00:07:03.964 I mean, every case is individually, of course, but the results that we're 00:07:03.969 --> 00:07:08.704 seeing in the how much or how less pain they're in within a matter of 00:07:08.704 --> 00:07:13.384 days, which is what is really the contributing factor to all these owners. 00:07:13.389 --> 00:07:15.544 The owners, they don't see their horses hurt. 00:07:15.964 --> 00:07:19.704 And I can say, Hey, within three or four days a week at the top, 00:07:19.704 --> 00:07:21.264 you're gonna see him moving better. 00:07:21.384 --> 00:07:23.604 And, I have to remind them, don't ride them. 00:07:23.844 --> 00:07:28.434 You know, Just wait, don't ride 'em just cuz he is not lame at a walk, don't ride. 00:07:28.824 --> 00:07:35.094 And so, but yes, that I would pull this first than anything else 00:07:35.099 --> 00:07:37.374 right now that I have in my office. 00:07:38.034 --> 00:07:38.304 Kelli Calabrese: Wow. 00:07:38.685 --> 00:07:39.534 That's fantastic. 00:07:39.534 --> 00:07:40.854 We definitely appreciate that. 00:07:41.094 --> 00:07:45.354 So the Amnion is obviously the leading component in there. 00:07:45.354 --> 00:07:49.704 What would you say about the factors that make the Amnion work the way that it does? 00:07:50.289 --> 00:07:53.289 Dr. Audrey Turbeville: The leukocytes and the cytokines that's in there 00:07:53.739 --> 00:07:58.449 is, unbelievable of how it cleans up and decreases all the inflammation. 00:07:58.929 --> 00:08:04.659 And then it's the M C P, which is the mitogenic for the local 00:08:04.659 --> 00:08:06.909 pains that is phenomenal. 00:08:06.909 --> 00:08:14.259 And when I tell you, like I had one case where he fractured his hock, 00:08:15.589 --> 00:08:19.669 when we, when he brought him to me, we sedated him and then we injected him. 00:08:19.669 --> 00:08:23.959 Then he woke up, when I tell you I think he walked better when, 00:08:24.049 --> 00:08:27.529 like right afterwards, like, cuz he pivoted on that leg. 00:08:27.949 --> 00:08:31.339 I was like, everybody in that barn turned around, looked at me and 00:08:31.339 --> 00:08:32.929 like, did he just walk off better? 00:08:32.929 --> 00:08:37.209 And I was like, I really do believe in this product and I'm like, 00:08:37.209 --> 00:08:40.989 I know I won't like to, when I inject it, everything's fixed. 00:08:41.389 --> 00:08:41.810 You know? 00:08:41.815 --> 00:08:47.949 And that in reality is not the way it is, but the way it did the local pain right 00:08:47.949 --> 00:08:50.529 then, I could say, yes, it did that. 00:08:50.529 --> 00:08:53.499 And how quick turnaround I have for that. 00:08:53.709 --> 00:08:54.849 Owners are impressed. 00:08:54.849 --> 00:08:56.889 Hey, he's not limping anymore, and it. 00:08:57.579 --> 00:09:01.809 Four or five days, seven at the most, and that, that is what really 00:09:01.814 --> 00:09:06.339 sells the owner to know that their animals, you know, are not in pain. 00:09:06.339 --> 00:09:10.899 That is the biggest thing that owners wanna, know has, is he in pain? 00:09:10.899 --> 00:09:11.589 Does he hurt? 00:09:11.594 --> 00:09:12.759 Can we make that stop? 00:09:13.029 --> 00:09:16.984 And I can tell them, yes, with confidence in that. 00:09:17.054 --> 00:09:19.764 Kelli Calabrese: Well that just speaks volumes that says so much. 00:09:19.764 --> 00:09:22.764 And you know, we know you're out there using this and you have not 00:09:22.764 --> 00:09:24.934 been afraid to use this product. 00:09:25.964 --> 00:09:26.084 Dr. Audrey Turbeville: No. 00:09:26.084 --> 00:09:30.294 We're where I am at, we don't have a refer in place. 00:09:30.294 --> 00:09:31.734 It's two hours away. 00:09:32.094 --> 00:09:35.094 I don't have that, My clients don't have that option. 00:09:35.344 --> 00:09:38.014 So a lot of things have to be done now. 00:09:38.044 --> 00:09:41.644 And so with this, it's a huge game changer for us. 00:09:42.004 --> 00:09:43.294 It's changing a lot. 00:09:43.354 --> 00:09:47.464 It's changing the lives here of the animals and, of the owners because 00:09:48.391 --> 00:09:51.604 they, know their animals aren't suffering anymore and that we can do 00:09:51.604 --> 00:09:55.294 something and something can be done now and they don't have to go traveling 00:09:55.294 --> 00:10:00.104 places and doing two, three hours away because that's, as close as we've got. 00:10:00.844 --> 00:10:04.164 Kelli Calabrese: I know sometimes money is, definitely an issue 00:10:04.164 --> 00:10:05.284 when it comes to these injuries. 00:10:05.284 --> 00:10:08.844 Have you seen any before and after images where you were able to see 00:10:08.844 --> 00:10:10.324 what the product did that you could. 00:10:11.109 --> 00:10:12.429 Dr. Audrey Turbeville: Yes, I sure can. 00:10:12.429 --> 00:10:13.749 I'll be glad to send you all that. 00:10:13.749 --> 00:10:17.589 But yes, we have a lot of 'em, especially about the ear things. 00:10:18.279 --> 00:10:19.959 The eyes have been huge. 00:10:20.019 --> 00:10:23.439 The ligaments the suspensory tears, we've been able to do 00:10:23.444 --> 00:10:25.089 that before and after pictures. 00:10:25.389 --> 00:10:26.619 I, yes that. 00:10:26.624 --> 00:10:29.199 And that's what sells a lot of people. 00:10:29.349 --> 00:10:30.879 Are you sure this is gonna work? 00:10:30.879 --> 00:10:32.409 Are you sure this is gonna do it? 00:10:32.409 --> 00:10:36.279 You know and, knowing that every case is individually done, it's hard 00:10:36.279 --> 00:10:39.729 to say, Yes, this animal's gonna do this because it's just like us. 00:10:40.079 --> 00:10:42.989 Some work on other things, some work, some don't work. 00:10:43.169 --> 00:10:47.339 But when you have constant, well, this is the one, here's another one, here's 00:10:47.339 --> 00:10:49.019 another case, here's another case. 00:10:49.379 --> 00:10:54.719 That when you have that, shows like the, consistency of this product 00:10:54.749 --> 00:10:58.559 that is working across the board for every animal, for every situation 00:10:58.799 --> 00:11:00.749 on those, you know, for that. 00:11:00.749 --> 00:11:02.039 And that's, amazing. 00:11:02.044 --> 00:11:05.129 And that sells the owner, like the product sells itself. 00:11:05.159 --> 00:11:08.429 Like as soon as I show pictures to 'em, they're sold. 00:11:08.929 --> 00:11:10.539 Kelli Calabrese: Well, that is fantastic. 00:11:10.539 --> 00:11:13.929 And we are absolutely all about saving time and money. 00:11:14.219 --> 00:11:17.229 And having the horses out of pain and all of the fabulous 00:11:17.229 --> 00:11:18.699 benefits that you have shared. 00:11:19.419 --> 00:11:19.719 Dr. Audrey Turbeville: Yes. 00:11:21.047 --> 00:11:23.409 That, has been, Like I said, that's been the biggest thing and we are 00:11:23.409 --> 00:11:26.769 so grateful for Renovo partnering with us and letting us do this. 00:11:27.594 --> 00:11:29.694 Kelli Calabrese: Well, thank you for all that you're doing out there in the field. 00:11:29.694 --> 00:11:33.804 We appreciate you going out and sharing this with veterinarians who maybe 00:11:33.804 --> 00:11:37.534 have not heard of it, who have not yet built the trust that you have had. 00:11:37.714 --> 00:11:41.964 What would you say to those veterinarians who have not yet tried Renovo? 00:11:42.444 --> 00:11:45.414 Dr. Audrey Turbeville: If you have not tried this, you are missing 00:11:45.444 --> 00:11:47.724 out on a product that can change. 00:11:48.474 --> 00:11:49.284 Change it. 00:11:49.284 --> 00:11:52.044 It will change your life as a veterinarian, but it 00:11:52.044 --> 00:11:54.084 will change the animal. 00:11:54.084 --> 00:11:57.894 And that is the, that is what we all got in this for, is to 00:11:58.044 --> 00:12:00.234 stop suffering on an animal. 00:12:00.234 --> 00:12:04.014 That's all of us got started because we wanted to help. 00:12:04.014 --> 00:12:05.274 We wanted to fix something. 00:12:05.544 --> 00:12:09.979 And if you're not trying this, you have really, are missing out and doing an 00:12:09.979 --> 00:12:11.629 injustice to some of these animals. 00:12:11.629 --> 00:12:12.679 You need to try it. 00:12:12.679 --> 00:12:13.729 You need to get on. 00:12:14.029 --> 00:12:15.679 You know, Just try it one time. 00:12:15.769 --> 00:12:16.549 Just one time. 00:12:16.549 --> 00:12:19.159 All it takes is one time and it will sell itself. 00:12:19.819 --> 00:12:20.179 Kelli Calabrese: Wow. 00:12:20.329 --> 00:12:22.819 And I know every case is probably different regarding a 00:12:22.819 --> 00:12:25.129 dose or the size of the dosage. 00:12:25.129 --> 00:12:28.339 Is there any recommendations you would have for a vet, maybe 00:12:28.339 --> 00:12:31.579 ordering, just to keep something in inventory because it comes frozen. 00:12:31.579 --> 00:12:32.579 It's good for weeks. 00:12:34.869 --> 00:12:38.799 Dr. Audrey Turbeville: At my clinic now, I keep one size of everyone, so that's 00:12:38.799 --> 00:12:43.569 one and a half, threes and fives and I just used a five the other day on one. 00:12:43.779 --> 00:12:50.229 So I mean, yes if you can do this and, if you have it, you need to be doing it 00:12:50.529 --> 00:12:56.169 and then have at least one size of each one of 'em, you will not be sorry and it 00:12:56.174 --> 00:12:58.479 will not sit there for eight, eight weeks. 00:12:58.539 --> 00:12:59.269 It won't. 00:13:00.459 --> 00:13:03.219 Kelli Calabrese: It can stay in a regular freezer for eight weeks. 00:13:03.249 --> 00:13:03.639 Dr. Audrey Turbeville: Yes. 00:13:03.879 --> 00:13:07.029 And it won't, you will not have it in your refrigerator by eight weeks. 00:13:07.239 --> 00:13:08.739 I order from y'all every month. 00:13:10.739 --> 00:13:10.939 Kelli Calabrese: Excellent. 00:13:10.944 --> 00:13:11.349 Well, Dr. 00:13:11.349 --> 00:13:14.139 Audrey, we appreciate you and all you're doing to spread the good news 00:13:14.139 --> 00:13:15.699 about what's happening with Renovo. 00:13:15.699 --> 00:13:18.189 So we'll be catching up with you and looking forward to 00:13:18.219 --> 00:13:19.449 hearing about more cases. 00:13:19.809 --> 00:13:20.349 Dr. Audrey Turbeville: Thank you. 00:13:20.349 --> 00:13:22.419 Thank you again to Renovo for helping us. 00:13:22.519 --> 00:13:23.259 Kelli Calabrese: Thank you.